G'Day , I no this most probly sould be in the Marine Park forum.

I cant beleave the Greeny what to put another 30% of Aussie Water way and Cost line under Marine parks. Thats another large chunk of area that we will no-long will be pirmited to fish in. I not sure as to how much of this will target SA but it not like we have lot of places left to target. Most of the good land base fishing areas in Port River has been close off, Your not pirmited to fish in the Torrens any more, Some areas in west lake is no fishing.

Dont get me wrong I can see some point for some marine Parks. but where do we draw the line. As it was pointed out in Modern Fishing mag this mth., some of the Areas that have been made in MP(Marine Park}, there are may People that once depend on tourisum and fisho's for an income, have now had to close down. Some have had to sell up and move on.

What made me think more on this subjet was when I walk in to Spot on fishing in Brossia Valley I saw A4 sign Saying and Quote ;

" Beware!!! Your favourite fishing spot Could be CLOSED soon!
"GREENS" want 30% of Australian coast line made into Marine Parks
--NO Fishing!!
Do not vote for the GREENS or anyone doing prefernces with GREENS
i.e. Labour

>>> Think before you Vote <<<

Authorised: Doug Joyner--Australain Fishing Trade Association, Sydney. Writern By: Bruce Alvey." End Quote

I normly dont give a Rat backside about Elections But this one a bit differant. I was wondering how other fishos feel about more Marine Parks? I dont care about whether it's Labour, Libral or the Greeens. I just want to know what People think of more MP's????????

WS

Good post Watersnake. I have been following this since the election was announced on Facebook on a group called 'We Fish' and if we vote for Labour or Greens we will see rec fishing cut by 30% in Australia The Libs are on the other side of the Marine Park issue.

This is one insert from Facebook



By all means vote for who ever you want, but if you fish like all of us on this forum have a bit of a think first

Tks Lazy lure, I think I will definately be voting Liberal now.

To think that Bermagui could be effected. Thats just not on.

Just found this info too...quite scary really!!!

Taken from the Lovefishing.com.au website.

Wednesday August 11, 2010
VOTE TO FISH

The upcoming federal election represents the most important election in Australia’s history for anglers.
Most anglers have little time for the ranting and raving within our political system. And who could blame them. The angler’s world is the natural world of aquatic ecosystems and the great outdoors. A far cry from the often farcical, plastic world that is politics.

Most anglers treasure their pastime and as a result are true conservationists of the marine environment. However, the looming federal election hides a threat to all anglers and will prove a pivotal point in the history of recreational fishing in Australia. For this reason, it is most important that anglers take far more care in voting than ever before!

The Greens have played their hand and stated that they intend to turn an absolute minimum of 30% of Australian commonwealth waters into marine parks. This is on top of extensive existing and proposed state-based marine parks. Considering that marine parks are revised every 5-10 years and more or larger Sanctuary Zones are created each revision, then it is feasible that within a short period of time we could be banned from fishing virtually all of our favourite areas if The Greens secure the balance of power in the Australian Senate.

It is important that anglers are aware that The Australian Labor Party has prostituted itself to The Greens by agreeing to a preference deal with them. As we know The Greens are hell bent on locking Australians out of marine and terrestrial areas and virtually banning the many outdoor pastimes that make us Australian!

In essence, this only leaves The Shooters and Fishers Party, The Liberal Party, The Nationals and The Australian Fishing and Lifestyle Party (QLD only) that represent the interests of anglers. Any vote for The Australian Labor Party or any party offering preferences to The Greens will put your treasured pastime of fishing at risk!



ENSURE THE GREENS ARE ALLOCATED THE HIGHEST NUMBER WHEN YOU VOTE!



If you are unsure or confused as to how to best vote to protect your fishing, it would be best to vote on your Senate Ballot Paper above the line ONLY. A single number 1 placed in the box of one of the parties that you know is representing your best fishing interests (see paragraph above this Ballot Paper box) is the way to do this.



If you would like to vote Labor but not support The Greens, you will need to vote below the line and number EVERY box consecutively from the Labor Party as “1”. To best represent your fishing interests you would also need to ENSURE that The Greens are last in your numerical order (ie. they have the highest number).



On the House of Representatives Ballot Paper you will need to number every box. Again, by ensuring that all Green votes are nominated last in numerical order (ie. they have the highest number), you will then be aiding in blocking The Greens gaining the power they require to lock anglers out of their traditional fishing areas.



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thx for the excellent post. I feel the need to understand policies and their ramifications upon us are vital in order for our vote to be used to its utmost

The GREENS will never have enough political influence to be able to get such radical legislation up.

Besides this, marine parks as an issue are not necessarily a bad thing. It's the implementation that can be an issue. Our SA govt. Don't seem to give a damn about rec fishers. However over on the east coast and Vic, they put a marine park in one area, then to compensate, drop FADs inshore for easy access to rec anglers.

There again, WA has introduced some pretty tough fees for boat fishers, large closures on specific species and $20 fee per boat per trip just for the privilege to fish... I believe there is also a per person fee on the boat also. Incredible!!!!!

In my opinion, we DO need to protect our fisheries, and marine parks are not a bad idea, we just need info on how they will be implemented.

worst case scenario... the greens could hold the balance of power

I tryed to put this in Genral Fishing so more fishos could be made a ware of what could happen in with there Vote but soneone in there wisdem put in the marine Park section . I will add more later. Thank guy I look at the other sites
Cheers WS

Have a look through the link for some interesting reading....

the_hippies wrote:


greens.org.au/policies/environment/marine-and-coastal-areas

Scary hey

I hope this works , If not I am sorry and I try again

watersnake wrote:


After three or four trys I give up. I was trying to attach couple of pages on the Proposed Marine Park Closures Date 8/8/2010. I'll try work something out and get it on as soon I can .

If they hold the balance of power they can use it to negotiate. They will green light other policies in return for getting their own policies through. The greens are a very dangerous party at present. Their propaganda is worse than any other organisation to the point where they've almost made themselves a religion, and speaking out against them means you are persecuted as a capitalist pig who doesn't care for the environment.

They are a party with a totalitarian agenda and they need to be stopped before we lose more of our freedom and they send us back to the dark ages.

Just my opinion.

I hate typing but I will do it fishing, Here go's;

And I Quote
"PROPOSED MARINE PARK CLOSURES Dated Monday 8th August.

Businesses Australia wide need to be aware of what is happening to our Coastline with regard to marine park closeures. If you are unaware, as are many of other people, of the processes that HAVE ALREADY been put into place by labor government in deal struck with the Green Party, then you need to read this Press release as it will hopefuly inform you of the urgency of the situation. Please look at the map inclose with this information package and you will see that closures suggested cover excessively large part of Aust. Coastline. If these marine park closures come into affect, Businesses and Families not only stand to lose a substantial potion of our fishing and Recreational coastline, but also the revenue that these areas generate.

The labour government have spung these closures on us just prior to the election, giving businesses very little time to gain a full understanding of the far reaching ramifications that this proposal will have on industry across Aust.. They have chosen these areas on a quota basis with no scientific to support their decision. The closures are simply a deal made with The Greens to secure preferential vote in the upcoming election to assist the Labor party in winning the election. The Global financial crisis although deemed to be over, is still significantly affecting industry across Aust., yet Labor and The Greens still deem it a viable proposal to disciminate against Australians through taking away their Liveihoods by simply removing their Place of work. These proposed closures are no different to the government saying that you will no longer be allowed to build house in Coffs Harbour, sell fuel in Newcasle or buld bouts in your factory. What they are proposing with these marine Parks by cloing large areas of ocean is exacty that. Businesses in any way related to the fishing and boating industy will Suffer! As will other businesses that rely on these industries for their Livelihood

Don't assume that it is just the fishing ad bot industry! If you hace careful look at the map you will notice that many of al those proposed area can easily be linked to already established national parks, something that will surly happen if labor returns to power. We will thenlose the beaches and surrounding waterways as well The effect will then be even more far reaching

We understand that marine parks are a necessity. If we inteend to protect our Aust. Costlines and provide for our future generations, we need to establish sustainable policies using scientific evidence gained by appropriate environmental studies and consultation involving the correct people,NOT by ramdomly drawing lines out into the ocean with a complete disregard for the businesses and people that it will affect.

In Mackay on Tuesday(july 27) Opposition Leader Tony Abbot announced the Coalition's policy. He announced there would be an immediate halt to Labor's marine parks roll-out so the processes could be restructured to ensure a better say for al anglers and recreational enthusiasts in park desgn and management.

He also annouced that the Coalition's Fisheries Minister would be a full partner in the process with theMinister for Environment, and all decisions would have to be jointly ageed. The full coastition policy is is available at

This issue should not be a political debate but unfortunately this has been used as a platform for Labor to secure votes to remain in power. We don't have lot og time left before the upcoming Election Day so the time to act is now.

Please forward this information to as many people as possible to ensure they are aware of the propsed charges and can make an informed choice on 21st August, 2010.

Regards
Scott Littler
Manager Director
Bob Littler Agencies Pty Ltd
Ph: 07 3390 0105"

End Qoute

I tryed to upload the map three time. Can anyone tell how it can be done, Please. It Most prob. could be gotten from the one of the Government sites.
As I said at the start of this forum I don't give a Rat ass about Labor, Liberal or the greens. But when it come to them taking away more off our fishing from us Rec Fishmam, I think everyone should be told as to what is happen. There's a lot of fisho's that dont even know whats going on, or what could happen to there secret spot.
>>>> NO FISHING <<<<
30% of Aust. Coastline on top of what they already have, i think is bit much to ask the Aust. Fishman & Women or Campers and Familys. But Alot just DON'T KNOW.

I think if they stoped a bit more gill netting, may be a start.
(sorry for any typing miss happes or spelling that is wrong)

Cheers
I Finally finished
WS

Thanks for the info WS.

Just when I thought I had half worked out who to vote for too

To finally tell the Conservationist politicians that we're fed up with their constant attacks on our freedom and their attitude that only Greens care about our environment.

They need to find another way to earn a living. Why the hell should we pay them to do this to our country and lifestyle?

I really couldn't give a rats which party rules - so long as the Greens have no say (or as little as possible).

Cheers,