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Fish Quality in West Lakes and The Port River 3 months ago #196537

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Hi guys,
As we all know there are varying levels of opinion regarding just how safe it is to eat fish from both West Lakes and The Port River. I've recently been trying to find some hard facts, that is scientific evidence regarding whether or not the fish in both systems are perfectly safe to eat. I've had some success but was wondering if anyone else out there has come across some good scientific research reports?

After some Googling I came up with the attached report "West Lakes.pdf" and it was quite an interesting read. I had no idea what the history of the area was and it explains where all of the heavy metals that I've heard people talk about come from. On outcome 4 from page 4 they do state that the public waterways and the beaches on Delfin Island are not affected by the contamination, but unfortunately they don't go as far as to test the fish. Has anyone seen any fish test results?
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I also came across another EPA study about the Port River Dolphins and in that particular study they actually did also test a number of fish out of The Port River. On page 22 of the report it lists the levels of heavy metals in the Bream and Mullet that were tested and they appear to be well under the maximum levels set out in the food standards code. I guess they are safe to eat then? Although it would have been nice to see what size the fish were to give an indication of the age of the fish.
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Anyway, have a read of the reports if you are interested and I'd love to see any other reports that you guys have found.

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Glen
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Re: Fish Quality in West Lakes and The Port River 3 months ago #196569

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Yeah i've read the W/Ls one before.The reason there are some parks on the waterfront is that it was too polluted to put a house there and the council are considering changing from lawns to native plant because of the leeching of cadmium(i think) etc into the lake.
I don't eat fish from either place except the odd feed of S/Ts which i believe to be a more transient species.Even then i'm probably kidding myself
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Re: Fish Quality in West Lakes and The Port River 3 months ago #196758

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I think you're probably right about the ST Brenton. I came across some surprising info that the Tassie government has issued regarding heavy metals in fish in the Derwent River. They are currently telling people that the Bream are not safe to eat, but looking at Australian Salmon their heavy metal concentrations are much lower. The levels recorded in the Bream are much much higher than the few Bream tested in the Port River report I posted.

Derwent_Seafood_Safety_2602.pdf

Hmmm...if we had a problem here in SA wouldn't the government issue something similar...surely???

This is really bugging me at the moment. Surely more testing has been done since almost 12 years ago? It's not like Bream are the most outstanding table fish, but if I did chose to eat a couple I'd like to be able to make a decision based on facts rather than hearsay.

cheers
Glen
Last Edit: 3 months ago by GlenW.

Re: Fish Quality in West Lakes and The Port River 3 months ago #196778

I'm not dead yet so there safe.

Re: Fish Quality in West Lakes and The Port River 3 months ago #196781

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smokeykebab wrote:
I'm not dead yet so there safe.


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Re: Fish Quality in West Lakes and The Port River 3 months ago #196785

glowing in the dark does have its benefits. but like GlenW posted about Tassie and the Derwent surely if west lakes and the ports fish were unsafe to eat it would be public knowledge and not hearsay. I know taking off shellfish are prohibited from the lake but why not the port?

Re: Fish Quality in West Lakes and The Port River 3 months ago #196957

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mate of mine at the epa said to me a while last year that the levels are fine in the fish from westlakes. Dont have the research though to pass on so only taking his word for it.

Re: Fish Quality in West Lakes and The Port River 3 months ago #196988

personally,wouldn't eat fish from either WL or the Port ........no "evidence" to support this, just me I guess.

Re: Fish Quality in West Lakes and The Port River 3 months ago #196991

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Thanks for passing that on mrfish. I actually sent the EPA an email last night so it'll be interesting to see if they have any documented test results that are publicly available.
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Re: Fish Quality in West Lakes and The Port River 2 months, 3 weeks ago #197980

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Well after an email to the EPA I received a reply from the Principal Scientific Officer (Aquatic Biology). I was informed that any concerns about human safety in terms of the consumption of fish or other aquatic life would be issued by the Department of Health not the EPA, although monitoring and assessment programs can provide data that focus on an environmental issue that can also overlap with human health concerns as well, similar to the Port River Dolphin report that I cited. So...I then sent an email off to the Department of Health and this is the response I received back today from the Senior Scientific Officer (Water Quality):


Hi Glen,

There have been some occasional testing done on fish taken from the Port River and West Lakes. The results showed that there were no health concerns with fish harvested from these areas. Risk assessments based on water quality testing also support the case that fish taken from these water bodies are unlikely to be a concern.

The most recent study was undertaken in 2000 to investigate concerns associated with contamination of dolphins living in the Port River. This report showed that fish harvested from the river were well below allowable limits for human consumption.

A copy of the report may be downloaded from the EPA website:
www.epa.sa.gov.au/xstd_files/Water/Report/dolphin.pdf

While fin-fish are considered to be safe this does not extend to shellfish which bioaccumulate heavy metals and biological hazards including algal toxins. There are permanent bans on the taking of shellfish from both the Port River and West Lakes.

If you have any further questions please feel free to contact Public Health on 8226 7100.

Regards,
Michelle *******
Senior Scientific Officer (Water Quality)
Scientific Services
Public Health
SA Health
Government of South Australia


Although I didn't actually get any references to more reports, I was very pleased to receive a personal email from senior scientists at both the EPA and SA Health. So make of it what you will, but hopefully my little bit of research will help some of you make up your own mind.

cheers
Glen
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Re: Fish Quality in West Lakes and The Port River 2 months, 3 weeks ago #198019

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had a council bloke tell whilst fishing not to eat any shell fish in the lake do to being unsafe, so i guess bream and mulloway eat the shell fish which would make them also not safe.

Re: Fish Quality in West Lakes and The Port River 2 months, 3 weeks ago #198027

even if the fish are safe to eat the only things I'll eat are Mulloway and Snapper easier to clean a big fish then lots of small fish. for me all bream go back (photographed if big above 45cm) mullet, st, kgw, gar, yfw, snook, tommys, pillies, squid, cuttlefish become live bait to catch Mulloway and Snapper
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Re: Fish Quality in West Lakes and The Port River 2 months, 3 weeks ago #198033

so long as you don't eat the guts of the bream and mulloway you should be fine. the bioaccumulation of heavy metals and pesticides etc occurs mainly in the gills, kidneys and livers of fish and not nearly as much in the flesh. i did read one paper where the results showed a greater accumulation of chromium in the flesh.

still... wouldn't catch me eating fish from the lake or port
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Re: Fish Quality in West Lakes and The Port River 2 months, 3 weeks ago #198058

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smokeykebab wrote:
even if the fish are safe to eat the only things I'll eat are Mulloway and Snapper easier to clean a big fish then lots of small fish. for me all bream go back (photographed if big above 45cm) mullet, st, kgw, gar, yfw, snook, tommys, pillies, squid, cuttlefish become live bait to catch Mulloway and Snapper
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your a brave man smokey

Re: Fish Quality in West Lakes and The Port River 2 months, 3 weeks ago #198083

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tom1234 wrote:
had a council bloke tell whilst fishing not to eat any shell fish in the lake do to being unsafe, so i guess bream and mulloway eat the shell fish which would make them also not safe.


isn't there a ban on taking shellfish from the Port?
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