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10 kg REDFIN: Fact or Fiction?
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10 kg REDFIN: Fact or Fiction? 1 year, 11 months ago #90072

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Just thought I'd start off this interesting, to me anyway, thread

after a few questions asked about the biggest redfin caught in Aus.

www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/showthread.php?t=107068

This was what came up when I "Googled" "the biggest redfin in Australia"

Lots more on there to follow up on when I get time, interesting that the much touted English redfin is a big fish at one kg in weight!

You'd have to think that cos of the much warmer temperatures in Aus that our reddys would be way heavier than that. However, so far a 5 or 6 lb fish is a thumper. That's only 2 or 3 kgs!

Where are these 10 kg fish?
ALL FISHINGS GREAT, REDFINS THE BEST

ALL FISHERS ARE BORN HONEST, BUT THEY SOON GET OVER IT
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Re:10 kg REDFIN: Fact or Fiction? 1 year, 11 months ago #90100

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Have to say TonyB, that for a Redfin to grow to 10 kg, there would have to be a phenominal food source present and no competition from other fish present.

A five kilo fish would be closer to probability.

Iam still waiting to catch that 2kg Reddy

1.45kg my PB. and that after 30 years of trying!!!

mmmmmm a 5kg Reddy, now that would be worthy of a club trophy

Just got to keep trying, and looking for new spots.

Re:10 kg REDFIN: Fact or Fiction? 1 year, 11 months ago #90143

Maybe their native climate and diet allows them to get larger than over here
dmn de do dah what to do lmao

Re:10 kg REDFIN: Fact or Fiction? 1 year, 11 months ago #90148

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I think it's the other way around as most fish get very torpid in colder water and redfin come from waters in Europe/UK which freeze right over in winter.
Because Aussie water is very much warmer I'd expect their metabolism, in their adopted country to go into over drive as the introduced Carp seem to do.
ALL FISHINGS GREAT, REDFINS THE BEST

ALL FISHERS ARE BORN HONEST, BUT THEY SOON GET OVER IT

Re:10 kg REDFIN: Fact or Fiction? 1 year, 11 months ago #90149

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scorpion wrote:


Just got to keep trying, and looking for new spots.


Or work the ones we know a lot more thoroughly
ALL FISHINGS GREAT, REDFINS THE BEST

ALL FISHERS ARE BORN HONEST, BUT THEY SOON GET OVER IT

Re:10 kg REDFIN: Fact or Fiction? 1 year, 11 months ago #90152

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So true Tony

Re:10 kg REDFIN: Fact or Fiction? 1 year, 11 months ago #90157

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Somebody should catch a biggish one....put it in a dam on its own and supply it with gambusia or Yabbies or whatever, look after it, nuture it (LOL) and protect it and see how big it gets....
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Re:10 kg REDFIN: Fact or Fiction? 1 year, 11 months ago #90192

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Apparently there is a HUGE one mounted[easy tony ] :kiss: in the toolondo caravan park,like about 8 or 9 pounds.
But 10 kilo sounds a bit over the top...unless in the years not long after they were introduced ,especially in food rich waters there could of been the odd freak,ie Lake Pedder trout,which grew huge being the first few stockings and had monopoly on all the rich food source.
Same as Tench,the british record is around 16 pound,but the Aussie literature states that it has been recorded at 70 cm and 10 kilo.
Its all possible but a pic or two would be nice,to totally put it all beyond doubt.
cheers
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Re:10 kg REDFIN: Fact or Fiction? 1 year, 11 months ago #90205

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this is all i could find,its the AAA aus record
Redfin Perca fluviatilis 2.640 Hentosz Bob Kuitpo Dam SA 12/10/1981
cheers brenton
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Re:10 kg REDFIN: Fact or Fiction? 1 year, 11 months ago #90209

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Thanks for that Brenton.
I can remember Bob Hentosz having a SA record breaking Trout out of the Onkaparinga.about the same time.
Showing my age now

Just found the "News" Redfin article in my collection.Oct 15th 1981.
Caught on a size 12 hook with small yabby as bait using 1.8kg(4lb) line.!!!
Fish was 2.6kg (5.83lb) The Australian record till then was claimed by a R.Lewis of WA for a 2.519kg Reddy.Bob's fish went 122cm long and had a girth of 46cm.
Looking at the photo in the paper i think the length was a bit stretched at 1.2m! Must have had huge hands if so.
But at 2.6kg a huge fish all the same.
A fish i would only dream of catching

Re:10 kg REDFIN: Fact or Fiction? 1 year, 11 months ago #90213

I remember an article in the news paper in the 90's about a 5kg reddie caught at kersbrook. Some people should remember that one, but id say they stuffed up the 5kg and should have been 5lb. Still looked like a bloody big fish in the pic.

Re:10 kg REDFIN: Fact or Fiction? 1 year, 11 months ago #90214

G'day TonyB

Had a bit of a look on the interweb thingy and found that there is a lot of (conflicting) info on record Redfin in Australia. Don't want to bore you with links to all the sites I have checked out so far, but I have seen everything from 2.53kG to 2.64kG (which appear to be valid) to 9kG to 10kG and to even 10.4kG!!!
May be a good idea to check this out with the Australian Museum and ask them to validate the source(s):

australianmuseum.net.au/Redfin-Perca-fluviatilis/

Cheers
archerfish
My short-term memory isn't as good as it used to be...and another thing, my short-term memory isn't as good as it used to be.

Re:10 kg REDFIN: Fact or Fiction? 1 year, 11 months ago #90232

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Booma wrote:
Somebody should catch a biggish one....put it in a dam on its own and supply it with gambusia or Yabbies or whatever, look after it, nuture it (LOL) and protect it and see how big it gets....


Only 1 problem Booma.... totally illegal !! Although I'm sure most people have heard of re-locating going on , it's not the sort of thing we want to be prmoting on the site.
Totally see where you're going though mate !!

Archerfish, I'm pretty sure that reference is what's got Tony going about the sizes in the first place. Me thinks the museums got it aaaalll wrong this time !! That is unless they have a 10kg specimen on show somewhere ???

Re:10 kg REDFIN: Fact or Fiction? 1 year, 11 months ago #90256

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scorpion wrote:
.Bob's fish went 122cm long and had a girth of 46cm.

Looking at the photo in the paper i think the length was a bit

stretched at 1.2m! Must have had huge hands if so.



That length quoted there has got to be a typo Graham

A 1.5 kg fish is around 45 to 46 cms from all my personal records!

I can't see how adding one kilo of weight to a fish would make it

THREE times longer
ALL FISHINGS GREAT, REDFINS THE BEST

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Re:10 kg REDFIN: Fact or Fiction? 1 year, 11 months ago #90409

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tonyb wrote:
scorpion wrote:
.Bob's fish went 122cm long and had a girth of 46cm.

Looking at the photo in the paper i think the length was a bit

stretched at 1.2m! Must have had huge hands if so.



That length quoted there has got to be a typo Graham

A 1.5 kg fish is around 45 to 46 cms from all my personal records!

I can't see how adding one kilo of weight to a fish would make it

THREE times longer



As i said in my post Tony, definately a bit stretched out in the
truth department at 1.2m !!!
David Capel wrote the article.( He wrote the weeekly fishing reports in the "News")
Most probably 22inches ( 56cm) would be closer to the truth.
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