Discovery Journey 0 Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 howdy fellas looking at gettin into beach /surf fishing for Mulloway round Goolwa etc in SA.looking at buying couple pairs of combos ideal and suited for surfishing for mulloway. but also that can be used in west lakes aswel so somethign vice versa i have saltigas, branzino and steez .but do not what to use them as they are not for this type of fishing plus all spooled with braid.so looking at gettin sum specifically for surf fishing which liek i said before can be used in west lakes aswell.any recomendations on the best ideal reels and rodsandhow much line they hold of what pound etcc.all tht basic gear to get me in the postiona budget is not an issue so your honesty and experience of either your own tackle setup and recomendations of what is the best would be appreciated.cheers boys Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bent87 0 Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 G'day mate- there is no point tackling a fish as big and tough as Jew with a 100 buck combo, so its a good thing that budgets not a problem.....nah, its not that bad- but you definetely pay for what you get. Your best option would be a gutsy 10 or 11 foot rod with plenty of meat to stop 60lb plus of jewie.Standard salmon surf rods definetely won't cut the mustard. As for reels, i like big chunky egg beaters that can hold a good 300 metres of 30lb line, ande have a smooth drag action. Once again, all leading brands have lots on offer in this department. It boils down a bit to budget and personal preference. Traceline should be topshelf- Jinkai is good, around the 60-80lb breaking strain. Use the best swivels you can buy and make sure your knots are flawless. Same goes for hooks- twin 8-0's are a good starting point, Octopus make a very cruelly barbed unit.Baits should be as fresh as possible, with salmon fillets, squid heads, pilchards and gar fillets being standouts. Goodluck mate. Kat 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kelvin 2,197 Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 If you have a Saltiga, that will be fine for Jews Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plankton 725 Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 I wouldn't think you'd want to use the same rod fishing Goolwa and other surf beaches and also in West Lakes. You don't really need a 10-12' rod in the lake, but you could certainly use the same reel and swap rods. I personally like overheads for fishing with bait in the surf and elsewhere. My beach mully setup is a Daiwa sensor rod with a Sealine X 50 reel loaded with 30 pound mono. I have yet to catch a mully however, so I'm not qualified to give you any advice on how it's done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shark_Fisho 1 Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 I run 4 comobs when targeting jewies:GF540 matched to a Calcutta 700b EG540 matched to a Saltist 30THSalitga Ballistic matched to a Saltiga Surf 6000Sensor Surf matched to a Saltiga Surf 6000Cant beat a 540 or a Saltiga for surf fishing for mullies Kat 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peelin 0 Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Seen the pic of your reel colection, would say you have that side of things covered , IMO braid works fine in the surf too, just get a couple of 10-13 ft rods to match for the big saltiga and OH and away you go, if money is no problem head down to the tackle shop and get whatever you like the feel/look of. I reckon something 8-9ft for straping the branzino to and chucking lures to 60 odd grams with would also be sweet as. Potentially hours of fun there and something more suitable for west lakes mullies as well Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Discovery Journey 0 Posted February 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 thanks for that fellas aprecciate it allso i see most of you'z have stated that you use either spin or overheads or both.so is there a standard poundage or line to use?i seen as stated by "bent" tht 300 metres of 30lb is tht what most of you'z all use?also Shark fisho i like your setup your all coverdsounds well organised. on all your reels do you run mono ? is yes how much or whatcheers again boys Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adamibinfishin 224 Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 howdy branzino,i use saltiga surf 6000 teamed with 13 foot sensor surf,awesome outfit,and you could also checkout the saltiga surf rod which is basically a beefed up version of the sensor which is 3 piece.i recently got myself a iso 6000 which is a jap hybrid version of the saltiga surf spinner,awesome bit of kit aswell.i fish 50lb braid to give me a buffer and easier to deal with rays,sharks due to fishing big baits.this outfit in my opinion is overkill though for westlakes.a far better outfit for westlakes would be a 3000-3500 reel on a 9ft graphite rod.i have a daiwa infeet specialist lure which is teamed up with a 3500 certate hd,awesome fun off the beach on the salmon too.will fling lures a mile and fish 20-30lb braid.probably noticed i'm a daiwa fan,cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shark_Fisho 1 Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 I run braid on most of my surf reels, I have 600yds of 50 pound suffix performance on 1 of the salitga surfs, I have about 500m of 65 pound Tuffline on the other Surf. I also have 65pound Tuffline on the calcutta and 50 pound Suffix 832 on the Saltist. I do run Mono on my Spinfishers in the surf. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mully_madness 1 Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 and here comes the other side of the coin lol ,I run a 6500b baitrunner backed with 20lb mono and about 100yds of 20lb fireline on top.I use a 12ft silstar powertip surf rod and as yet havent encountered too much i cant stop although i have came close at 2nd valley 1 night although i think i was lucky it spat the bait lol.Although as for mullies if i get hit by 1 that can spool the 6500 then i think he/she desreves its freedom not that id have any choice in it lol. cheers MM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Discovery Journey 0 Posted February 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 thanks for that once again boys.alotta peopl have told me using braid in the surf is a no nobbut what advantages are there from using braid or mono.of corse i no its thiner diametere more metres on the spool etc..but in surf fishing ?also if using braid what set up from braid to trace from hooks if best to use. ?cheers again appreciate all the knowledge Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gary glitter 0 Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 I cant stand braid on overheads in the surf especially anything under 50lb,if ya get a slight over run,SNAP.I just use a calcutta 700,20 to 30lb mono,10ft sabre.I only use braid on my calcutta in the surf when casting big metals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adamibinfishin 224 Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 braid can be harsh in the surf but the advantages outweigh the disadvantages for myself.using mono for me is like fishing in the dark ages but it will still do the job.i use wind ons or slim beauty join to shock leader and have no trouble with this method,goodluck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Discovery Journey 0 Posted February 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 so mono is the best for using dead baits and live baits?would you jst then add ezi rig then tie to swivel then attch rigor use 3 way swivel ties to the mono?is there other better ways ?thanks again Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gary glitter 0 Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 google surf fishing rigs and you will have an idea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gary glitter 0 Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 I personally think you should use mono because it seems as though you havent had to much experience at casting big baits and braid would be your nightmare,and bloody costly at that.you could use a paternosta a running style paternosta,running sinker with easy rig,smallish ball sinker and walk the beach with bait going with rip,theres just so many rigs on any given day and beach,but alot of people use paternosta and grapnel sinker... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
__matt__ 0 Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 just use your saltiga and get a sensor surf in the 20-40lb model. stoked with mine, and have just got a catalina for chasing kings and heavy bottom bouncing. i whacked it on the sensor and was casting over the hundred meter mark with ease(mapped it out on google earth). never going to have to belt a bait longer than 50m to get to the middle of a decent surf gutter and theres no point spending money you don't need to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
southie THE BANGA 2,304 Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 and then we head to the mid price range of things... i use my wilson 4120 10'8 rod and then it is matched with a diawa emcast 6500 sport... spooled with 30lb platypus mono.this is my go to rod for alot of bigger fish. have caught mullies from ards jetty with it,have surfaced and stopped the BIG black ray there aswell with this, sambos over the west coast, heading over to salties in 2 weeks with a few fellas from here so will be interesting to see how she goes if i do get onto a decent fish...i also have a 12ft uglystick gold with a penn spinnfisher 850 and thats spooled with 30lb mono aswell..then i have an wilson 4120 OH matched with an abu 7000 and 30lb braid this is for lure casting metals and bait sihing for sambos... Rickster 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kat 0 Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 I just want to say that This is a great thread guys very Informative! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
__matt__ 0 Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 ...that said if you are interested in a saltiga surf 6000, i may be able to put you in contact with someone for one that is functionally mint for 300 bills.The may-be depends on if i end up grabbing it haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thefunkychicken 0 Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 G'day.Yep, I agree, it's very interesting to see what people are using for surf fishing.There's certainly some serious $$$ getting around on some beach combos by the sounds of it! But hey, if you can afford it and that's what you like spending your money on, then that's great.Before I was able to afford to upgrade my gear I caught plenty of decent sized fish on a 10'6" Ugly Stik Gold with a Penn 650ss and 30lb braid.Now I'm fishing with a 13' Sensor Surf and a Baitrunner D with 40lb braid. My other combo is a beautiful old Snyder Glas 153 and an Alvey 650c with 35lb mono. (the Alvey is the only reel I've used mono on in the surf for about the last 12 years).I've never used an overhead for casting. I did venture into the baitcaster realm a while ago but I'm nowhere near having the ability to consistantly hoik big weights out with an overhead.Anyway, great topic: very interesting to see what's out there and good info to be found. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rooboy123 9 Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 I grew up using mono in the surf, but went to braid about five years ago. I love braid for throwing lures, but when it comes to heavy surf rigs i really dont know what i prefer. I honestly think mono and braid both have their advantages in the heavy surf. I still use braid with about 2-3m of shock leader, so i guess ive decided thats the best for me. I have heard a few stories of braid not having enough give, and a nice mully shaking hooks:angry: If youve already got a saltiga that would be an awesome reel, as long as you dont mind getting a bit of spray and fine sand on and in such a nice bit of kit. Otherwise a Penn spinfisher for $130 is a tough and proven reel.For the rigs i usually use a paternosta with a three way swivel, but as with all fishing there are always a few options, that is just what ive settled on for the surf.Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Discovery Journey 0 Posted February 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 thanks for that fellas appreciate it allsoo rooboyas what knot would you used to connect the braid to your leader ??i usually just doo bimini twist to albright but am unsure is that is a safe method for suf fishing ?thanks again learning alot the theory part:) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plankton 725 Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 i usually just doo bimini twist to albright but am unsure is that is a safe method for suf fishing ?That's the best way to join braid to a mono or fluoro leader in heavier tests, in my opinion, in the surf or anywhere else. For braid of ten pound or less I'll use a slim beauty knot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rickster 0 Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 I use a 12 foot ugly stick or for heavier situations i have a custom made 5120 classic rod which is 12 foot as well and the good old penn 750 ss reel that is now over 25 yrs old with mono line and has never failed me in any way.Look after you gear and your gear will look after you. :woohoo: catchno 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
southie THE BANGA 2,304 Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 2nd that Rickster 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T BONE 1 Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 My old surf outfit was 12ft Wilson MT8144 with a Penn 950ssm running 30lb mono. for me it was way to heavy to use & I hate sand spikes on rods. Other rod was 10ft Ugly stick gold & some Shakespeare reel, sold both of these off.These days have two Saltiga Surf 6000's which I initially had one on a 15-30lb & the other on a 20-40lb 12ft Saltiga Surf rods from the u.s, similar to the Ballistics but cheaper. Great rods which I still have & will continue to use when the need arises but I have since upgraded to two Ballistic Surf rods, one 17-40lb & the other 20-50lb from the u.s. Two reasons for doing this the extra length at 13'3" & the need for chucking out 10oz (with room for even more up to 12oz :ohmy: ) grapnels with big baits good distances. Have spent a fair bit on my surf gear but is well worth it especially when you can place a bait where the fish are & keep it there. E.g FWC trip last year caught all the mullys over 5 days & the other guys could not even loose a bait. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Discovery Journey 0 Posted February 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 wow thanks for that t bonei think i will but 2 saltiga surf 6000'sand 2 ballistic sur rods they sound nice and hada play today and really liek themwhat mon / braid lb you running an dhow many metres ? cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T BONE 1 Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 At the moment I have them spooled with about 330m of 30lb mono. but have two spare spools that I will be filling with 50lb braid for back up. Like to stick with mono. in the surf, at night & especially when it comes to tangles with weed e.t.c. but since there is not a decent thin dia. 50lb mono. that is easily available braid it will have to be for some of the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kelvin 2,197 Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 The ballistics sound good.Are they available anywhere in Adelaide? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Discovery Journey 0 Posted February 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 saw one at SFS kelvinand cheers for that t boneso if i got 2 6000's i should spool them wiv mono?you sed you would hava bak up in braidwhen would you use braid over mono for ? cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rooboy123 9 Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 yeah, knot wise im with plankton. I also like the double uni, and use this and the slim beauty on the heavy stuff sometimes. The albright is an awesome knot, but can annoy me going through the guides.Reckon tbone is on the money, if we could get thin dia. in heavier breakage mono, problem solvered!!I do have lo-stretch on a spare/hack reel, and dont mind this for mono in the surf.Spend your coin and get a saltiga surf, you know you want to!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Discovery Journey 0 Posted February 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 yeh cheers for thatyeh rooboy im looking at gettin 2 6000'sjst tryna figure out wether to put mono or braid lol n how heavy aswellany idea ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rooboy123 9 Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 I know where your heads at the moment. Its hard to work a trade off between breaking strain and line capacity. I reckon Platypus make some of the thinner monos around in Platinum and Lo-Stretch. Not having held a saltiga surf before, i cant comment on their capacity, but i think it is one of their selling points. With the mono I would reckon you should be able to fit a good amount of 30lb(around .45mm dia) on one. The 50lb Platinum is .55mm dia. which would eat into your capacity, and maybe casting distance being so thick. Although a good hunk of lead on the end of your line will help! In braid the surf would probably be perfect for pe5 line.Other crew might have some better suggestions for thinner mono lines that are out there.Dont know if i have been a help, or made things more confusing, but its a few ideas anyway!!!!!I guess if i had one reel it would have 50lb braid or pe5 line on it for my heavy surf work. With a good length of leader.Cheers and happy shopping Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rooboy123 9 Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 Having said all that, when you buy your reels im sure you will get the best advice you need for the line as well. Unless you shop at BCF:laugh: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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