johndeere 0 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 I want to use a running sinker on braid for snapper but the sinker tangles on the braid. what will stop this happening? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
4THALOVE 45 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 are you using an ezy rig slider mate ??? Moggy23 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boyington214 0 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Hey JD,How long is your leader? When fishing braid, I tend to use up to around 16ft of Jinkai. Either 40 or 60lb. Moggy23 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rickster 0 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Using both techniques from 4THA and Boyington combined work for me. 4THALOVE and Moggy23 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johndeere 0 Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 If you have 16' of Jinkai do you have the running sinker on it with some sort of stopper? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moggy23 625 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 This is how I,ve been setting up for snapper of late,The easy rig is clip faces the braid and the terminal is a Shogun hawaiian clip.The easy rig is on back to front in this photo 4THALOVE, HSVLS19 and urhookedfish 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snake10 0 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 easy rigs are the way to go plus you can change weights dependng on where your fishing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nickmav 0 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Ezy rigs are good but they can tangle in braid too. I tie a sort leader onto my braid, say 1.5 meters and them run the ezy rig on this. No tangles then. urhookedfish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
4THALOVE 45 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 This is how I' date='ve been setting up for snapper of late,The easy rig is clip faces the braid and the terminal is a Shogun hawaiian clip.[img']http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af26/Moggy23/other/HAWAIIANsnap.jpg[/img]The easy rig is on back to front in this photowhat's the difference in the way you have the clip facing Mog ??cheers 4THA Rickster 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fishie 98 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 The catch hanging down will catch on the braid due to gravity when the line is slack... if the catch is up on the top side it will face away when hanging down and will have less chance of fouling 4THALOVE and Savagelip 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moggy23 625 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 This is how I' date='ve been setting up for snapper of late' date='The easy rig is clip faces the braid and the terminal is a Shogun hawaiian clip.The easy rig is on back to front in this photowhat's the difference in the way you have the clip facing Mog ??cheers 4THA[/quote'']On the slack tide and getting tidal surges, it helps stops the braid from getting hooked in the eye of the easyrig. Also if the line gets slack during casting I found it almost eliminated the tangle. HSVLS19, 4THALOVE and Rickster 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
4THALOVE 45 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 you bewdy cheers you lot Mog you will be tying my traces from now on ooops you already do cheers 4THA Moggy23 and Rickster 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rickster 0 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 This is how I' date='ve been setting up for snapper of late' date='The easy rig is clip faces the braid and the terminal is a Shogun hawaiian clip.The easy rig is on back to front in this photowhat's the difference in the way you have the clip facing Mog ??cheers 4THA[/quote'']On the slack tide and getting tidal surges, it helps stops the braid from getting hooked in the eye of the easyrig. Also if the line gets slack during casting I found it almost eliminated the tangle. Amazing how something so simple can make all the difference. :woohoo: Moggy23 and 4THALOVE 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
4THALOVE 45 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 This is how I' date='ve been setting up for snapper of late' date='The easy rig is clip faces the braid and the terminal is a Shogun hawaiian clip.The easy rig is on back to front in this photowhat's the difference in the way you have the clip facing Mog ??cheers 4THA[/quote'']On the slack tide and getting tidal surges, it helps stops the braid from getting hooked in the eye of the easyrig. Also if the line gets slack during casting I found it almost eliminated the tangle. Amazing how something so simple can make all the difference. :woohoo: he's a th/sinker our moggy thats for sure HSVLS19 and Rickster 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
urhookedfish 12 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 This is how I' date='ve been setting up for snapper of late,The easy rig is clip faces the braid and the terminal is a Shogun hawaiian clip.[img']http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af26/Moggy23/other/HAWAIIANsnap.jpg[/img]The easy rig is on back to front in this photoCheers guys hadnt seen this variation of the running rig, and like it a lot.Dont use running rigs very often but if I did, id be keen to use this one. Moggy23 and Rickster 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rickster 0 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 This is how I' date='ve been setting up for snapper of late,The easy rig is clip faces the braid and the terminal is a Shogun hawaiian clip.[img']http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af26/Moggy23/other/HAWAIIANsnap.jpg[/img]The easy rig is on back to front in this photoCheers guys hadnt seen this variation of the running rig, and like it a lot.Dont use running rigs very often but if I did, id be keen to use this one. Well there you go UHF thats how Moggs is so successful on the boat with the reds and is the best set up for the rocks too as you use a lighter line for the sinker. That way when you get snagged most of the time you only lose that. Also the Hawaiian clips makes it easy to re-rig when the reds are gut hooked. Moggy23 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
urhookedfish 12 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: I kind of do understand where your coming from there Rickster in regards to running a light trace to the sinker, but most rock spots that I fish are just too reefy and unsuitable for running rigs, and normally I try and elevate the baits up just a tad higher on the standard patternoster rig just so the hooks dont hook the reef. :cheer: If I was to choose a running rig out in the boat it would be either when over at Ards (As most of those grounds are mussell beds and the fish have there noses burried in an out of the sand) or say out in the middle of Spencers and at whyalla as results in the past have shown that the fish there love to pick the bait up off the bottom there. Just had too much success on Patternoster to ever change the method in most of the areas ive fished so far though. But as you know the most successfull anglers have a range of tactics that can be employed to find out what the fish are doing in that session.Definately a great point about being able to unhook the trace quickly and re-rig during a hot biteAs far as rigs go, its definately Poetry at play. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rickster 0 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 To fish higher of the bottom use longer line to your sinker from your easy rig. urhookedfish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chuckemback 0 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Hmmmm so where's the sinker go? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Back for Bites 0 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Fellas, this is all great stuff but as a matter of interest, what's the knot (or knots) of choice being used here? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rickster 0 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Hmmmm so where's the sinker go?Sinker is attached to the ezy rig. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rickster 0 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Fellas' date=' this is all great stuff but as a matter of interest, what's the knot (or knots) of choice being used here?[/quote']I prefer to use the albright to attatch braid to my leader, and blood or uni knot to my swivel. Back for Bites 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moggy23 625 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Fellas' date=' this is all great stuff but as a matter of interest, what's the knot (or knots) of choice being used here?[/quote']I always use the Palomar Knot with the braid and a simple half blood knot with mono leaders to swivels and clips Back for Bites 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chuckemback 0 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 This must be a boat rig. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
statesquider 0 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Has anyone had problems with the braid biting through the plastic of the ezyrig?My mates looked worse for wear after a big day fishing.. It had cut through that much it would get stuck, so i'm slightly hesitant to use them when snapper fishing now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Savagelip 4 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Has anyone had problems with the braid biting through the plastic of the ezyrig?My mates looked worse for wear after a big day fishing.. It had cut through that much it would get stuck' date=' so i'm slightly hesitant to use them when snapper fishing now[/quote']more so landbased Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moggy23 625 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Has anyone had problems with the braid biting through the plastic of the ezyrig?My mates looked worse for wear after a big day fishing.. It had cut through that much it would get stuck' date=' so i'm slightly hesitant to use them when snapper fishing now[/quote']I chamfer the edges with a filleting knife, never had an issue.The braid used by me and the lad is a Sufix 832.Caught quite a few 10 kg plus snapper and bloody sting rays without getting busted off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
statesquider 0 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Ah ok, might give it a go again I just hate the idea of wrecking my line and losing a fish when i could have rigged up differentlyNow to hunt a few down... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
4THALOVE 45 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Has anyone had problems with the braid biting through the plastic of the ezyrig?My mates looked worse for wear after a big day fishing.. It had cut through that much it would get stuck' date=' so i'm slightly hesitant to use them when snapper fishing now[/quote']I chamfer the edges with a filleting knife' date=' never had an issue.The braid used by me and the lad is a Sufix 832.Caught quite a few 10 kg plus snapper and bloody sting rays without getting busted off. [/quote']i can vouch for the strength of his knots and use of the hawaian clips as we have had to tie off to the bollard to snap his traces b4 but havn't seen one cut into the ezy rig yet cheers 4THA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moggy23 625 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Has anyone had problems with the braid biting through the plastic of the ezyrig?My mates looked worse for wear after a big day fishing.. It had cut through that much it would get stuck' date=' so i'm slightly hesitant to use them when snapper fishing now[/quote']I chamfer the edges with a filleting knife' date=' never had an issue.The braid used by me and the lad is a Sufix 832.Caught quite a few 10 kg plus snapper and bloody sting rays without getting busted off. [/quote']i can vouch for the strength of his knots and use of the hawaian clips as we have had to tie off to the bollard to snap his traces b4 but havn't seen one cut into the ezy rig yet cheers 4THAI thought HSV's TCurve was going to break first on the last outing with that sting ray. 4THALOVE 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
4THALOVE 45 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Has anyone had problems with the braid biting through the plastic of the ezyrig?My mates looked worse for wear after a big day fishing.. It had cut through that much it would get stuck' date=' so i'm slightly hesitant to use them when snapper fishing now[/quote']I chamfer the edges with a filleting knife' date=' never had an issue.The braid used by me and the lad is a Sufix 832.Caught quite a few 10 kg plus snapper and bloody sting rays without getting busted off. [/quote']i can vouch for the strength of his knots and use of the hawaian clips as we have had to tie off to the bollard to snap his traces b4 but havn't seen one cut into the ezy rig yet cheers 4THAI thought HSV's TCurve was going to break first on the last outing with that sting ray. was it his light one or medium 1 cant remember ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moggy23 625 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Has anyone had problems with the braid biting through the plastic of the ezyrig?My mates looked worse for wear after a big day fishing.. It had cut through that much it would get stuck' date=' so i'm slightly hesitant to use them when snapper fishing now[/quote']I chamfer the edges with a filleting knife' date=' never had an issue.The braid used by me and the lad is a Sufix 832.Caught quite a few 10 kg plus snapper and bloody sting rays without getting busted off. [/quote']i can vouch for the strength of his knots and use of the Hawaiian clips as we have had to tie off to the bollard to snap his traces b4 but haven't seen one cut into the ezy rig yet cheers 4THAI thought HSV's TCurve was going to break first on the last outing with that sting ray. was it his light one or medium 1 cant remember ??That was the Snapper 5-8 kg overhead, brilliant rod 4THALOVE 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rollas 2 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 I run a leader about 8-10ft tied with a surgeon knot and a hawaiin snap connected to a 3ft rig with double circles snelled to the end and the ezy on the leader. When the leader is to short I find the braid starts to wrap as described. Depends on the conditions though because if it's reedy I use a paternoster with a single line with double snelled circles again.Moggys rig is the go. Moggy23 and 4THALOVE 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
4THALOVE 45 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 hey Rollas hows youre sucess rate on the double snelled circles , just interested as i only ever snelled normal 6/0 gammas but use the circles as a single set up?? have you hooked up on the second snelled circle hook before?? and was it still lip hooked if ya did i thought of snelling a normal j hook to my circle thinking that the circle wouldn't work, the way the hook is set up interested in your response cheers 4THA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
statesquider 0 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 I always rig with 2 snelled circles chasing snapper. Either hook can hook the fish and it is really rare to gut hook (although it does still happen) Moggy23, urhookedfish and 4THALOVE 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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