Tacklebags 404 Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-05/super-trawler-troubles-conservationists/4054442?section=tasThis super trawler will be fishing from NSW to WA. It is apparently responsible for plummeting fish stocks off Chile by 90%.While this boat may be fishing Commonwealth waters not state, I will not police or adhere to a single zoning proposal in this country.Rape our southern Australian waters where 80-90% of all marine life is found nowhere else on earth as the DENR website states......yet bring in this ship to feed Asia and Africa while excluding your own citizens on a mass scale between both State/Federal plans?On the SAplan website DENR were quick to point out the Australian sea lion was under threat from Commonwealth commercial fishing off southern Australia. So go figure the rationalism of this environmental bi-polarism by our Governments?TB Poppa Snake and wishing2Bfishing 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kon 300 Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 TBWhat you said... As I have previously posted on one or two matters, it almost generates thoughts of joining up with those Greenpeace plonker fanatics, as much as it sticks in my craw to say that.What the hell are the thought processes of the people approving this bovine excreta? Yakmando and Poppa Snake 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
din 0 Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 thats sum scarey stuff right thereour government cant manage themselves let alone care about the important things. afishyfish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cal 480 Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 This defies logic and is un Australian...just puts us in the same catagory as European and Asian countries that have raped their seas to the point of decimation.I spose they have had many hundreds of years to do this, its ironic that a batch of buffoons eventually have to show their true colours and send us down the same path,,,unable to see the obvious mistakes,this kind of thing is the beginning of a sordid, unsustainable, spiral into the depths of greed and enviromental disaster. urhookedfish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weaver 271 Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 18000 tonnes,what are you worried about guys? thats only a pin drop in the ocean Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crispy 2 Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 How can the government let this happen?with all the b/s about marine parks and sanctuaries and catch limits ect ,yet they are prepared to let a super trawler operate in austraian waters because it has a few pointy heads working on it ,as for the bloody union what the jobs of a handfull of seamen is worth destroying the fish stocks forever sounds a bit like the logging debate i say we cut the anchor rope and let tasmania float away with all the politicions on it as well perhaps they could circle around tasmania until all the fish are gone from there first then lets see what is said crispy urhookedfish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy. 173 Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 buy back pro licencestry and introduce marine parksdecrease bag limitsThen let a super trawler rape the seas all because it produces an extra 40 jobs... Wonder how many jobs are created from the tuna etc industries they will be affecting... probably a hell of alot more than 40 jobs FFS! afishyfish and urhookedfish 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
afishyfish 4 Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 How can the government let this happen?EasyIts going to drop a "much" needed 4 million dollars into the Tas economy. At the expense of what else where I wonder.Theres so many arguments against this whole idea ! People rushing out justifying this n that always forgetting once its gone you cant eat money :pinch: Geez I dunno :whistle: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
statesquider 0 Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 What is the point in caring anymore?I have nothing positive to add.The world will continue to go downhill until we've completely destroyed it. So sad, but as long as someone is making a buck or two out of it... urhookedfish and Poppa Snake 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chuckemback 0 Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 JUST GREAT to hear that a super trawler is allowed to fish off Australias coastline!Now why should i comply with any Australian fishing regulation , will they have bag limits or size limits the same as me? It seems if you comply and do the right thing you just get slapped in the face with a wet fish.What smart ministers we have!!! Anyone of us can surley do a much better job, seriously! Boyington214, Tacklebags, urhookedfish and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
khombi 10 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Once again, you, the amateur fisherperson have been knifed in the back,by people who we put into power to govern this country on our behalf.Dr david Susuki, a well known outspoken person on enviromental issues once said and i quote:when the last fish is taken from the sea and the last tree on earthis cut down then and only then will we relise that you cant eat money.my point is that, money talks louder than commonsence,and i am thinking that there is no commonsence left in the corridors of power.Isnt it Norway that still hunt whales as well as Japan,both countries have stuffed up their own fishing waters as well as Chiles and now they want to stuff up ours. :c :c :c urhookedfish, chuckemback and Poppa Snake 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weaver 271 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 imagine the tonnage of by catch in those nets! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tacklebags 404 Posted June 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 imagine the tonnage of by catch in those nets!I doubt the TAC put on this thing is going to be upheld.The industry owners want to get that tonnage changed in the future. Plus this trawler can store 9.5 thousand tonnes of fish in it's onboard freezers. So, if it was only going to out sea 2 times a year it would have already reached it's quota p/a?Would you purchase a vessel of this size if you could only take it out 2 times a year due to a TAC?I smell a rat?TB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
statesquider 0 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 This is what bothers me the most... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wishing2Bfishing 0 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 this makes me so angry, there is nothing anyone of us can do about it either. im only 22, whats the world gunna be like when im 50? makes me sick :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: urhookedfish, Boyington214 and afishyfish 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
afishyfish 4 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 this makes me so angry' date=' there is nothing anyone of us can do about it either. im only 22, whats the world gunna be like when im 50? makes me sick :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:[/quote']When I was growing up I was told my vote counted.I'm not so sure anymore !I think having more of a global economy nowadays is making the situation worse ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
afishyfish 4 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 imagine the tonnage of by catch in those nets!I doubt the TAC put on this thing is going to be upheld.The industry owners want to get that tonnage changed in the future. Plus this trawler can store 9.5 thousand tonnes of fish in it's onboard freezers. So' date=' if it was only going to out sea 2 times a year it would have already reached it's quota p/a?Would you purchase a vessel of this size if you could only take it out 2 times a year due to a TAC?I smell a rat?TB[/quote']Possibly a rat TB, who knows. but it wouldnt hurt to have some rat sak handy anyway Tacklebags 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SamN 0 Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Hey guys, Heres another link: http://​www.dailytelegraph.com.au/​lifestyle/​federal-government-allows-massi​ve-super-trawler-to-fish-in-au​stralian-waters/​story-e6frf00i-1226387965265In my opinion this again is the government and a bunch of people that have never seen sunlight in there life sitting behind a computer screen or phone doing dodgey buisness transactions.... But dont worry we need marine parks coz guys its us recs that are ruining the snapper industry.... MMMMMM government hey, if you could walk up and say something to one of them im sure itd be along the line of some words far to inappropriate for this site...This really just does show hoy hypocritical the people are that run our country....Few year from now i can see it we will need a 67ft boat to evening get out to a tommy ruff spot to even catch one of these fish... (they will just rape anything that moves)*&&*&^ Joke Mate Tacklebags and Poppa Snake 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crispy 2 Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Elected by the people FOR the people hahahahahaha what a load of %$E^%^% should have been elected by the people to line our pockets and that of overseas companies crispy Poppa Snake 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Federal labour is toxic. Can't stand Julia's patronising comments on tv either. She thinks we are all completely stupid. Talks down to us like we a dyslexic.If there's ever been a worse government in Australia's history then i'd like to know which one it was because it must have been horribly bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tacklebags 404 Posted June 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Meetings about this super trawler in TASSIE.http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/article/2012/06/28/502265_fishing.html Poppa Snake 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kon 300 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 The Margiris is getting some attention in Europehttp://www.canberratimes.com.au/environment/conservation/greenpeace-locks-down-australiabound-supertrawler-20120628-214hm.htmlYep, still seems to be in porthttp://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?mmsi=277330000And a lengthy read on the mighty dollar and high seas fishinghttp://sosnews.org/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=203&cntnt01returnid=15 Maybe the Centre for Policy Development only goes for soft targets with their "reports"? Tacklebags 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
khombi 10 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 This super trawler is only one of the many problems being experianced by all Australians thanks to our politicians.The latest foray is the ex Prime Minister thr honourable Bob Hawke trying to broker a deal on China,s behalf to use an extensive amount of land in the topend of Aust to grow vegys that would be sent back to China.not for consumption in Aust, all water would be supplied to them from the Ord river system, no charge, and no taxes or charges payable.Once again they are trying to pull the wool over our eyes.[this story was on the Leon Viner radio show this morning 28.6.2012].Your money [eg TAXES] i guess is going to prop up a deal which is of no value to you.Now think about what is going to happen if and when that super trawler gets the go ahead,they will take what ever they can and it will all go overseas and you will recieve no benifit at all.There is an awfull lot to think isnt there Regards Chris Cal and Tacklebags 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wahoo 146 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Seems it's not a done deal yet and Greenpeace also seem to be getting involved.http://www.fishingworld.com.au/news/mounting-opposition-to-super-trawler-visit Wahoo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
khombi 10 Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 Hi kon,just checked tour post regards the fishing vessel Margiris.and yes she is still in the port of Ijmuiden.If anyone wants to track her moverments they can do so by typeing inthe webbsite www.marinetrackingservices.com and follow the promps. Regards Chris. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
khombi 10 Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 Morning tacklerat.Good news that G P are involved,just read the article in the NZ herald and it sounds good so far but it is early days yet,a lot now depends on federal goverment and i think we all know how unreliable they are. their track record for supporting local industries is not that good,but lets hope that commonsence prevails,we all have to keep the pressure on if we want to win this one. Regards Chris afishyfish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cal 480 Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 Thanks for all the latest info khombi..oh nice avatar, that van looks a sweet set up,love those things!cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
khombi 10 Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Thanks Cal,yeh, she,s a good old bus,36 yrs old and ive had for 22yrs,part of the family you might say lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
khombi 10 Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 As of 4.20pm 1.7.2012 the MV MARGIRIS is still tied up in the Port of Ijmuiden.Maybe G.P can weld the hull to the dock somehow, that would %$#@ em wouldn,t it. Boyington214 and snapper15.4kg 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snapper15.4kg 67 Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 It is nice to see, that for once, Green Peace is doing something usefull Boyington214 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
afishyfish 4 Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 As of 4.20pm 1.7.2012 the MV MARGIRIS is still tied up in the Port of Ijmuiden..Bit of info on that here http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/environment/conservation/greenpeace-locks-down-australiabound-supertrawler-20120628-214hm.html Maybe G.P can weld the hull to the dock somehow' date=' that would %$#@ em wouldn' date='t it ..[/quote'']Theyre doing better than that Khombi "At 0300 AEST activists put a chain around the ship's propeller, and two climbers are currently hanging on the cables between the ship and the quay, to prevent the ship from beginning its journey to Tasmania," Greenpeace said. " Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kon 300 Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Every now and then..."The enemy of my enemy is my friend" urhookedfish, afishyfish and Tacklebags 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tacklebags 404 Posted July 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Maybe so kon,But while not wanting something that is going to affect you detrimentally or environmentally is okay, I think challenging them in the courts would be the last resort after lobbying.This groups first resort is to sabotage industry, that I will never support!TB kon and afishyfish 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Poppa Snake 1,399 Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 slightly off topic but its the same idiots running the asylum themepaying farmers to NOT run cattle on their land so the land & environment can absorb more carbon.then have to import all our beef from bigger carbon producing countries by massive carbon producing ships at bigger costs!!!!WTF Tacklebags 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tacklebags 404 Posted July 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 slightly off topic but its the same idiots running the asylum themepaying farmers to NOT run cattle on their land so the land & environment can absorb more carbon.then have to import all our beef from bigger carbon producing countries by massive carbon producing ships at bigger costs!!!!WTFRead the 'carbon and mpa's' thread as well. Our country isrun by carbon fruitloops!Any chance of bringing up the link to that little statement Poppa Snake?TB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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