bjorn2fish 4,610 Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Not news you want to hear but the shark fishing restrictions are here to stay.SharksFINAL.pdf Booma 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Booma 1,349 Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Great to see that the point about wire and mono traces has been made 100% clear in that media release Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy. 173 Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 and since they have been introduced I've spent thousands less in local fish shops and adjacent area's for food and beverages, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boyington214 0 Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Wonder what the swimmers, friends of the gulf, those who think the ocean is there for the exclusive use of humans only, and surf clubs will whinge about now? It certainly wont stop sharks coming close to beaches in the future and COULD be used as a precursor to have shore and jetty fishing along the metro coastline banned as well. This outcome is not a good one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pauly s 426 Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 What a joke.. Very upsetting that we can't enjoy our fishing anymore and they just keep bringing in more restrictions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tacklebags 404 Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 The alarmists that used old photos to generate a media frenzy and dupe Gago can be found here.http://m.adelaidenow.com.au/news/beachgoers-want-ban-on-shark-fishing/story-e6frea6u-1226250262398dupe1djuËp/verb1.deceive; trick."the newspaper was duped into publishing an untrue story"synonyms:deceive, trick, hoodwink, hoax, swindle, defraud, cheat, double-cross, gull, mislead, take in, fool, delude, misguide, lead on, inveigle, seduce, ensnare, entrap, beguile; More Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tacklebags 404 Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 How do we ban rip tides? They kill more swimmers than sharks.....http://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/science/rips-bigger-killer-other-natural-hazards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boyington214 0 Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 You don't need to Dupe newspapers to print rubbish TB. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tacklebags 404 Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 You don't need to Dupe newspapers to print rubbish TB.Yep agreed. Just for clarification that's part of the definition, not my wording. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tonyb 1,017 Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Behind every cloud is a Silver lining Let's all list some positives?1/,,,, Restrictions do not apply between 9pm and 5am which is when sharkers normally operate?2/....Hook sizes have been increased by length and width.3/.... Wire can now be used with size limitations and ganged hooks with nylon between them.4/.... SHARK FISHING ON THE METRO COASTLINE HAS NOT BEEN TOTALLY BANNED Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tacklebags 404 Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Behind every cloud is a Silver lining Let's all list some positives?1/' date=',,, Restrictions do not apply between 9pm and 5am which is when sharkers normally operate?2/....Hook sizes have been increased by length and width.3/.... Wire can now be used with size limitations and ganged hooks with nylon between them.4/.... SHARK FISHING ON THE METRO COASTLINE HAS NOT BEEN TOTALLY BANNED Tony, those regs have been the case for the last 12 months. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pauly s 426 Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Behind every cloud is a Silver lining Let's all list some positives?1/' date=',,, Restrictions do not apply between 9pm and 5am which is when sharkers normally operate?2/....Hook sizes have been increased by length and width.3/.... Wire can now be used with size limitations and ganged hooks with nylon between them.4/.... SHARK FISHING ON THE METRO COASTLINE HAS NOT BEEN TOTALLY BANNED How can you chase sharks weekdays if you can't have a bait in till 9pm ? We can't fish the hour b4 sundown and onwards which would be the time and then in the morning you can't fish first light so not sure how they are the times sharkers operate Tacklebags 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tacklebags 404 Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Behind every cloud is a Silver lining Let's all list some positives?1/' date=',,, Restrictions do not apply between 9pm and 5am which is when sharkers normally operate?2/....Hook sizes have been increased by length and width.3/.... Wire can now be used with size limitations and ganged hooks with nylon between them.4/.... SHARK FISHING ON THE METRO COASTLINE HAS NOT BEEN TOTALLY BANNED How can you chase sharks weekdays if you can't have a bait in till 9pm ? We can't fish the hour b4 sundown and onwards which would be the time and then in the morning you can't fish first light so not sure how they are the times sharkers operateFishing is to be conducted in a manner similar to prostitution. We all know it happens but just don't let anyone see you doing it..... chuckemback 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PJ151 0 Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Behind every cloud is a Silver lining Let's all list some positives?1/' date=',,, Restrictions do not apply between 9pm and 5am which is when sharkers normally operate?2/....Hook sizes have been increased by length and width.3/.... Wire can now be used with size limitations and ganged hooks with nylon between them.4/.... SHARK FISHING ON THE METRO COASTLINE HAS NOT BEEN TOTALLY BANNED Would the clouds still have a silver lining if they banned fishing for redfin perch between the hours of 5am and 9pm? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tonyb 1,017 Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Behind every cloud is a Silver lining Let's all list some positives?1/' date=',,, Restrictions do not apply between 9pm and 5am which is when sharkers normally operate?2/....Hook sizes have been increased by length and width.3/.... Wire can now be used with size limitations and ganged hooks with nylon between them.4/.... SHARK FISHING ON THE METRO COASTLINE HAS NOT BEEN TOTALLY BANNED Would the clouds still have a silver lining if they banned fishing for redfin perch between the hours of 5am and 9pm? Must confess your comment raised a little giggle from this dyed in the wool reddy addict but it would be very difficult to compare shark fishing with redfin fishing at any level and as far as I know (and please don't quote me?) there has never been a single human redfin attack fatality anywhere in the World :clap:As an aside, it is a scientific fact that redfin actually sleep at night so a ban would be totally un-neccesary between the hours of 9pm and 5am :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: PJ151 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PJ151 0 Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 I feel confident in saying that a ban on day time metropolitan shark fishing in unnecessary as well.Anyone who understands the marine environment off adelaide already knows that the sharks are there anyway.They're there for the sand crabs, snapper, tommies, garfish etc and an angler fishing say a salmon trout or mackeral out for sharks is not going to make any difference.Urban runoff, sewage, the torrens outlet etc all those sources of offal are much much more likely to attract a shark than a bloke fishing a salmon trout under a balloon.We all know that but unfortuantely some unneducated residents think they know better and are doing the right thing to protect their children by successfully lobbying for shark fishing to be banned.The Government sees it as an easy quick political fix when in reality the danger level to beach goers remains the same as it always has or possibly worse since white sharks become a protected species.Many people have lost touch with the natural environment and falsely believe that quick fixes like this will suddenly make the beaches safer. Tacklebags, Ugly4Life, Boyington214 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plankton 725 Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 3/.... Wire can now be used with size limitations.I don't believe any wire can be used regardless of the size, between the hours of 5am - 9pm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ugly4Life 41 Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Can't say I didn't see this coming. Where was the promised consultation and review? Oh that's right, the latte sipping greenies who got this introduced in the first place had their consultation and review 12 months ago. Tacklebags 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tacklebags 404 Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Can't say I didn't see this coming. Where was the promised consultation and review? Oh that's right' date=' the latte sipping greenies who got this introduced in the first place had their consultation and review 12 months ago.[/quote']The only science was social science.....whatever it takes to minimize 'interactions' with fishers to keep the bleeding hearts happy.At least commercial fishers get real science through stock assessments. We get no marine science but banned anyway. Ugly4Life 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Komodo 10 Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Fishing is to be conducted in a manner similar to prostitution. We all know it happens but just don't let anyone see you doing it.....Im sorry but as a tackleshop owner I cant be seen to condone this.... but as my alter ego Lord Blackbilly i nearly wet myself laughing! So true I wish the people that represent us would actually pull their heads out of the sand for once rather than their hands out of their pockets Tacklebags 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
archerfish 685 Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Only just slightly off-topic:http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/15772559/aerial-patrols-missing-most-sharks/ :whistle: Ugly4Life and Tacklebags 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ugly4Life 41 Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Using artificial sharks placed at various depths and locations along a stretch of southern NSW, the study noted plane crews spotted just 12.5 per cent of the dummies.Helicopters, which are used for all WA's aerial patrols, were marginally better, identifying 17.1 per cent of the dummy sharks.Colin Barnett, whose Government significantly increased funding for aerial shark patrols, stood by the practice as an "important and effective tool" to safeguard swimmers.Seriously fail to understand how people can say this stuff with a straight face. Yes it's so effective that you can't even spot 1 in 5 sharks off the coast. That's the very definition of effectiveness right there... /sarcasm Tacklebags 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Gaff 0 Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 I just read the new release and I find it quite stupid. We all knew that the fishers were going to get bent over in the long run. The permanent fishing restrictions wont stop illegal fishing activities, I see people all the time fishing using wind on leaders, 400lb stainless steel wire trace and hooks up to size 12/0 between the hours 5 AM to 9PM. Because there is a limited number of Fisheries Officers in South Australia the chances of get caught on our metropolitan beaches is very low even if someone does reports it to fishwatch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tacklebags 404 Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 I just read the new release and I find it quite stupid. We all knew that the fishers were going to get bent over in the long run. The permanent fishing restrictions wont stop illegal fishing activities' date=' I see people all the time fishing using wind on leaders, 400lb stainless steel wire trace and hooks up to size 12/0 between the hours 5 AM to 9PM. Because there is a limited number of Fisheries Officers in South Australia the chances of get caught on our metropolitan beaches is very low even if someone does reports it to fishwatch.[/quote']Its only illegal because it was made so without evidence. I am not surprised if more rec fishers are just giving the gov the big finger. The gov also legally allowed the slaughter of snapper, garfish and blue crabs recently. What difference does lawful overexploitation make to the environment or the rest of society? I guess using any opportunity to over regulate 236, 000 reccies brings in the most revenue? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tacklebags 404 Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 All these people throwing themselves into a foreign environment full of dangers. But want the gov to pay?http://m.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/south-australian-government-cuts-funding-for-helicopter-shark-patrols/story-fni6uo1m-1226771711248 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spartan 0 Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 I just read the new release and I find it quite stupid. We all knew that the fishers were going to get bent over in the long run. The permanent fishing restrictions wont stop illegal fishing activities' date=' I see people all the time fishing using wind on leaders, 400lb stainless steel wire trace and hooks up to size 12/0 between the hours 5 AM to 9PM. Because there is a limited number of Fisheries Officers in South Australia the chances of get caught on our metropolitan beaches is very low even if someone does reports it to fishwatch.[/quote'] Went sharking the other month at 5pm of the jetty with mono and regulation hooks and wire trace to put on after 9pm i was the only chump everone else was still using wire add the did not give a toss in my eyes this is how to get it banned out right PS got a nice eaglie and a couple small bronzies on mono cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kon 300 Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 SpartanThe fact that there is either mass ignorance or mass deliberate non-compliance I think would hardly lead to a 24/7 shark tackle restriction extension.This BS was implemented to supposedly "limit interaction" between shark fishers and other beach users [ie "Yes Minister" speak for "politically driven"], thus I would suggest if there is such a level of non-compliance it is surely down to enforcement during the specified "sensitive" period...as there is hardly a great deal of potential "interaction" between 9pm and 5am? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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