bjorn2fish 4,610 Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 I'm about to head back to a favourite spot of mine to start my land based snapper mission due to the reports that have been coming in lately. It's a spot where I lose lots of rigs. I have always used a peternoster rig, a 3oz or more bomb sinker on the bottom and roughly 30cm up a dropper loop leading to 2 snoozed 6/0 circles. When I reel in I give the line a good whack before winding in hoping it doesn't get snagged on the rocks and pulls through tough weed. It's pretty good rig that has worked well but I still lose heaps of sinkers and hooks so.... any suggestions what I can do to save a few more rigs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kelvin 2,195 Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 Most of the snags are due to the hooks catching bottom. For my landbased work I use 20lb braid and 30lb trace and keep to a single 3/0 or 4/0 circle hook. The single smaller circle seems to snag less. Also using heavier braid and trace, I can sometimes give a slow pull when snagged and straighten the hook a bit and get my rig back. Also using smaller hooks and smaller bait I can get more distance on the cast. Is your spot Metro? bjorn2fish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn2fish 4,610 Posted August 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 Thanks kelvin, yeah it's metro. I reckon I could definitely go smaller hooks, I've only ever caught two snapper from that spot and they were just over legal. Other fish around the place like salmon, wrasse and leatheries I could catch on smaller hooks too so makes sense. I think I might have been setting my expectations too high in the past from this spot. Also keen to try singles too. I guess if I still lose hooks I'll lose half as many with a single hook. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rybak 620 Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 I have found using spoon type sinkers or ball/egg shaped sinkers tend to snag up less in reefy or rocky areas. Also I attach the hooks at least 1 metre up. Bait Caster and bjorn2fish 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Underpants 1,543 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 I've always used a 3-way Shogun swivel like the one blelow. Only been able to find them on Mo. Running a 50-60cm sacrificial line of softish mono (roughly 50% mainline breaking strain) from the swivel to a 3-4oz snapper lead. Alas you're still going to lose leads this way tho. usually 2 snooded 4/0 suicides but i'd like to go Kelvin's way with circles if i could confidently hold a bait on them . As you say; take in all the slack on the line, give it a good heave to lift everything of the reefy stuff and wind like crazy to start with untill you're happy it's all clear. Never actually caught any on this rig .....but im coppying my 'LB metro snapper expert mate' who has caught dozens on this at the same spot. I just cant put in the hours he does. bjorn2fish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dylzzz69 95 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 maybe running a lighter line to tie your sinker? that way if it does get caught and the line snaps then you are only losing your sinker instead of the whole setup? Lines tight bjorn! bjorn2fish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zorgs 141 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 That's what I do, either that or tie a very dodgy knot to the sinker that will slip under excessive strain. bjorn2fish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChuckTseeker 425 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 when in the fishing club years ago, on the rocks i would use spark plugs as sinkers, they open up when caught and 90% of the time you get your hooks back, just hook another spark plug to the loop and go again. You will be surprised how they don't get snagged as much too, must be there shape! i also used to have the hook at least a meter off the bottom to try and keep it out of the weed. But most of the time we float fished, use one of those snapper style floats with the lead on the bottom tie a bit of wool on the main line to set the depth, check a knot site how to tie it. Let the float sit on a swivel to cast then tie ya leader to the swivel with a hook on it, a foot leader should do and it's then like having an un-weighted bait sitting in the water best of luck mate cheers chuck dutchy, bjorn2fish, Zorgs and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dutchy 451 Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 use one of those snapper style floats with the lead on the bottom tie a bit of wool on the main line to set the depth, check a knot site how to tie it. Let the float sit on a swivel to cast then tie ya leader to the swivel with a hook on it, a foot leader should do and it's then like having an un-weighted bait sitting in the water best of luck mate cheers chuck I have heard that is a good way to fish Goolwa for mullies bjorn2fish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
southie THE BANGA 2,304 Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 The float setup is very handy however i would suppose you would need to have a guess at the depth you are fishing so it is not sitting to high above the water column etc... I have always used lighter line attached to the sinker... However it does get annoying ..... bjorn2fish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Luke5600 61 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 I'm about to head back to a favourite spot of mine to start my land based snapper mission due to the reports that have been coming in lately. It's a spot where I lose lots of rigs. I have always used a peternoster rig, a 3oz or more bomb sinker on the bottom and roughly 30cm up a dropper loop leading to 2 snoozed 6/0 circles. When I reel in I give the line a good whack before winding in hoping it doesn't get snagged on the rocks and pulls through tough weed. It's pretty good rig that has worked well but I still lose heaps of sinkers and hooks so.... any suggestions what I can do to save a few more rigs? I've always gone a running sinker rig, whatever size sinker you need tied to 10lb mono with a swivel on the end which I place on my mainline before i place the swivel for the rig on, 10lb will allow the sinker to breakaway without losing the rig itself. As long as you cast with a smooth even effort and no sudden jerks the sinker stays on fine although it can take a little practice at first to keep the smooth momentum going. bjorn2fish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm boy 17 Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 For the sinker snagging? You could use a "rotten bottom" rig: http://www.whitbyseaanglers.co.uk/rotten-bottom-rig When fishing for snapper landbased on rocky areas such as Point Lowly, I like to use a pulley rig with a long sinker trace and a short hook trace. This keeps the hooks off the rocks. As has been mentioned previously, on the retrieve, wind as fast as possible to lift the lead up off the bottom. Favourite hook size for LB snapper is triple 3/0 Owners with a couple of small pieces of bait on each hook. This method works well for me. Regards, SB bjorn2fish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bricks 24 Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 When I fish from the rocks I use a float on the mainline with no stopper above it. The line still hits the bottom due to the sinker, but when you wind in it lifts the rig closer to vertical using the float as a pulley. bjorn2fish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm boy 17 Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 I forgot to add, when a fish is hooked using a pulley rig, the pulley action ensures the sinker is pulled right up out of the way of the bottom, reducing the chance of the sinker snagging while fighting a fish. http://britishseafishing.co.uk/how-a-pulley-rig-works/ Regards, SB bjorn2fish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn2fish 4,610 Posted October 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Thanks for all the info guys. I might give the pulley rig a go. I have noticed I've had less snags putting my hooks higher up, I used to put em up about a foot, I've been trying about a metre now. Also smaller hooks, that will change as I get keen and try larger baits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plankton 725 Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Hey bjorn, if you need some rig bits for those pulley rigs I can help you out, can show you how I tie mine as well. storm boy and bjorn2fish 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn2fish 4,610 Posted October 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Cheers mate, I'll see how I go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Del 245 Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 bucket of hot lead.. and a heap of old kitchen spoons.. make home made spoon sinkers. used them down at whyalla for many trips.. bjorn2fish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bratko 277 Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 ive heard about your spot ABBA...see you down there amigo...always wondered how productive it was...dont catch em all save sum for me... bjorn2fish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn2fish 4,610 Posted September 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 It can be productive, I reckon it's about time I hit up again About time I actually went fishing again, it's been far too long! Meppstas and dutchy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
N.B 30 Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Land based snapper and Metro to boot? Any chance of hinting the spot? bjorn2fish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dmck 626 Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 ...at the risk of stating the bleedin' obvious.... dont cast in to rocky spots.......... (I know..... I know....... I've been called that before...... ) bjorn2fish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn2fish 4,610 Posted September 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 It's metro It's no special spot though. Without giving away where it is I'd have to say if I caught snapper there you should be able to catch them at heaps of metro spots. KIDNEY SLAPPER 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Del 245 Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 ive heard plenty of stuff over the years.. and now i live so much closer to some of these spots ive heard off.. i do hope i get a chance at some land based fish this year!now a Southy! bjorn2fish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn2fish 4,610 Posted September 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Welcome to paradise haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bratko 277 Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 An old timer who grew up fishing your spot ABBA rekns theres monster tommies and squid there also...3 years ago I saw a meter long mully chasing bait fish at the beach end of your spot...that day there was a zillion silver whiting around....I thought these whiting are a bit small...better throw em back KIDNEY SLAPPER and bjorn2fish 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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