Luke5600 61 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Evening all, I'm currently looking for a second reel to use while fishing land based for snapper. At the moment I've got 1 rod set up with a pflueger salt 60 reel but looking to get a different reel for a second set up, I've been thinking about possibly trying a bait runner out to see how well it will perform off the rocks. Anyone got some insights into this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scissors 308 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 How much $$$ you got to spend? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Luke5600 61 Posted October 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 How much $$$ you got to spend? Enough for most reels, Maybe cut off point would be around 200? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plankton 725 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 I would recommend an overhead reel, heaps better than baitrunners IMO. They're really quite easy to cast once you learn and much better at fighting fish, keeping in touch with your bait and letting a fish run before striking. Plus they weigh less than a similar capacity threadline. Both Daiwa and Penn have some nice options. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Underpants 1,543 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Penn Slammer Live Liner. Cheap to buy but still solid & tough units. Plus easy to work on- if you feel that way inclinded. Sure they're a tad heavy but that's only an issue if you're holding the rod all the time. Tacklebags 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm boy 17 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Pretty much all the LB snapper I've caught have been solid hookups. I do prefer overheads but have the drag set reasonably firmly. I've not seen the need to let the fish run (a la baitrunner), but other people's opinions may vary. Just for reference, my favourite terminal setup is 3 closely snelled 3/0 Gamakatsus or Owner cutting points with small individual baits. Again opinions will vary :-) Cheers! SB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm boy 17 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 The old overhead reels still seem to work OK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Luke5600 61 Posted October 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 I would use the overheads if I was fishing off the boats but I only fish for snapper once the wind kicks up quite alot, over running the overhead would happen quite often as I have to cast extremely aggressively to make distance to reach the spots I need too.Never used the bait runner option in the past but while fishing out in the boat I tend to do so to allow the snapper to pick up the bait and mouth it a bit more, I find snapper tend to pick up a bait and move with it while eating as opposed to remaining fairly stationary. if the fish are skittish as soon as they feel the resistance they'll just drop the bait so I'm leaning towards a bait runner at the moment@underpants I'll check those out, The weight won't really bother me as I'll be fishing 2 rods, one set up with circle hooks so I can leave it in the holder and then one that I'll fish a little more actively but using the rod holder with regular suicide hooks with the bait runner turned on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Alvey 650c deep spool! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plankton 725 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 I would use the overheads if I was fishing off the boats but I only fish for snapper once the wind kicks up quite alot, over running the overhead would happen quite often as I have to cast extremely aggressively to make distance to reach the spots I need too. In my experience casting an overhead into strong wing is only a problem when fishing fairly light. I use overheads for all my medium to heavy LB bait fishing and cast quite aggressively using an off the ground cast. I personally don't use any magged reels, but many people are raving about the new Penn Squall reels, the smallest two having magnetic cast control which can help prevent overruns. I am planning on buying the 25N size for my new mulloway reel, but it's not a mag version (although the British version is). At the end of the day though you need to fish with what you're comfortable with, so if you're looking at baitrunners then I second Underpants on the Slammer. Tacklebags and storm boy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smokeykebab 175 Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 a distance casting reel. I use an Okuma Axeon II 80 but its overkill. I'm wishing I got the 60 size. casts a mile, has good drag, smooth comfy handle and plenty of line capacity. comes with a spare spool. around 100 then you have money to buy different braids or a mono if u fish off rocks often. storm boy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kelvin 2,198 Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 I don't (can't) use overheads. For my landbased snapper work I use Saltiga Surfs, Daiwa Excellors and Shinamo Baitrunner Ds. Any large spool threadline will be nicer to cast but a longcast spool is best. It depends how far you need to cast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zorgs 141 Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 10574210_712352148802310_6842028851046583905_n.jpg a distance casting reel. I use an Okuma Axeon II 80 but its overkill. I'm wishing I got the 60 size. casts a mile, has good drag, smooth comfy handle and plenty of line capacity. comes with a spare spool. around 100 then you have money to buy different braids or a mono if u fish off rocks often. Just out of interest what rod have you got there? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smokeykebab 175 Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Okuma something mark berg fishing addiction rod 8ft 6-8kg just a cheapo $50 rod Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zorgs 141 Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Cheers for that, how do you go for distance land based? Do you find you need something longer or is there more to it than just the rod length? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Underpants 1,543 Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Definitely go for 10ft+ for casting distance. All depends on the setup, what you're comfortable with and how you use it. I suck at casting distance so am stuffed anyway. Bear in mind, depending on where your are fishing it doesnt need to go to the horizon either. Certain rigring will cast better, ie 'pulley rigs'. Another issue with LB snapper (again depending on where you are fishing) is any shore breakers. A longer rod (and tall holder) can help keep the line high and out of the shore breakers where the line gets knocked arond and is more likley to collect any mobilised weed. i have heard of folks using 14ft LB metro, for precisely this reason. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Underpants 1,543 Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 ...... not trying to tell you 'how to suck eggs', something that can handle a 4oz+ lead plus bait (1/2 squid head, pillie, 1/2 tommie ect)? All very much depend on when & where. Where i go the side current usually nessitates around 4oz to hold. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smokeykebab 175 Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 I have a 12ft tica surf rod but for lb snaps its too long to use especially on jettys or rocks. I don't fish big surf for snapper so I don't need the height to keep the line out of the surf. I use a simple paternoster rig single hook 2-3oz snapper lead. The distance cast reel casts almost as far on the 8ft rod to the 12ft. Maybe 10 meters shorter but far enough. smokeykebab 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tacklebags 404 Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 Penn Slammer Live Liner. Cheap to buy but still solid & tough units. Plus easy to work on- if you feel that way inclinded. Sure they're a tad heavy but that's only an issue if you're holding the rod all the time. Penn 560 liveliner is great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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