ASD14 197 Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Gday Boys,As the title suggests, im looking at getting a dedicated Tuna / kingfish spin rod setup...It will be used trolling for tuna at victor, livebaiting kingies at augusta,, some light jigging for sambos etc etc What is everyone using/recommend??I'm thinking at this stage getting a Daiwa Saltist Extreme pe5/6 rod with a Daiwa Catalina 5000 reel running 50lb braid.Do you think this setup an overkill for tuna? but perfect for kingies? cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raider 19 Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 will be a solid set up mate, good short boat rod. I reckon you might find that it will be perfect set up for Victor Tuna but maybe a little light for the big kings if you are lucky enough to find a few ASD14 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ASD14 197 Posted February 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Hey bro, no worries!! Well i don't like scull dragging fish, so I recon this would be a nice setup then... We got to catch up soon mate! Raider 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raider 19 Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 No doubt it will be a fun combo to use when you get on to the big ones. I know mate I have been meaning to get out wet a line and let you know but I just haven't had the time lately which sucks we'll try soon I'll give you a buzz. ASD14 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Its hard to match an outfit that will be ideal for tuna and kings as kings pull twice as hard as tuna and fight very dirty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ASD14 197 Posted February 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Nanman -yeah that's what I thought mate, a PE5/6 is probably perfect for kingies, but abit of an overkill for tuna.... I could use my PE2-4 stick for tuna trolling, but I recon it may be abit light! Hmmmmm decisions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bungplug 72 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 PE2-4 would be perfect for most Tuna given the clean fight (PE2-4 can be anything from 30 to 50/60lb depending on the braid). I generally use a PE3 rod/30lb braid or occasionally 40-50lb braid on a PE4 rod (PE4 Catalina rod with 4500 catalina reel). Just want a bit of lifting power for when they circle under the boat but can always drive the boat off them a bit to make them easier to get up. Get the other one for kingies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Station49 33 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Isn't PE2-4 effectively 20lb-40lb line rating? Using 60lb might risk a bit of catastrophic failure...? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bungplug 72 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 generally the breaking strength of line will be a bit higher than the PE rating PE rating refers to the diameter of the line not breaking strength. Better quality braids generally are thinner for any given breaking strength EG. PE2 = line diameter of .235mm YGK PE2 (diameter of .235) has a breaking strength of 30lb. PE4 is .330mm which is generally around 50lb (my PE4 catalina rod is fished with 50lb braid) The Japanese went to PE ratings so it is easy to grab any spool and know instantly how much line will fill if rather than having so much variance between brands of braid and diameters (i.e. spool will take 300m of PE2 or .235mm line) Ideally you could fish 100lb braid on any rod and if your drag is set correctly for the rod it should not break as the drag will give first (highsticking any rod is the normal cause of rod failure bar damage to blank or car doors - this is user error and will happen even with the correct breaking strain line) reelfun and ASD14 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bungplug 72 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Gday Boys, As the title suggests, im looking at getting a dedicated Tuna / kingfish spin rod setup...It will be used trolling for tuna at victor, livebaiting kingies at augusta,, some light jigging for sambos etc etc What is everyone using/recommend?? I'm thinking at this stage getting a Daiwa Saltist Extreme pe5/6 rod with a Daiwa Catalina 5000 reel running 50lb braid. Do you think this setup an overkill for tuna? but perfect for kingies? cheers Going back to your original choice like you say probably a bit overkill for tuna but that's not saying it can't be used. Any extra lifting power is sometimes handy when a half decent one starts circling under the boat (though the boat should be driven off to change the angle to one better suited). That rod (PE5-6) is probably just a tad heavy for 50lb but still very workable (PE5 would be about spot on even thought it is slightly overrated for 50lb as for kingies I'd rather a bit extra than a bit less) As far as kingies go generally you should be looking at a setup to handle either 50 or 80lb line. That being said consider drag should be set 1/3 of the line (albeit you may need to clamp a hand on the spool at times but this can be instantly released if needed). 1/3 of 50lb is around 16lb and 1/3 of 80lb is 26lb. Get an 80lb set up and tie it to a set of scales hooked to the base of the clothes line and see what you can pull the scales to. - bet you'd be battling to pull anywhere near 26lb drag on the 80lb. what does that mean - 50lb should be adequate in most situations (unless your in real rough territory) and a decent wind on leader will protect you at the fish end. queeny and ASD14 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ASD14 197 Posted February 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 bungplug -No worries mate, cheers for that! Yeah been looking around at different set up's lately and I might get a PE6/8 rod, 6500 catalina/saltiga and some PE6, kingies fight very hard and dirty I've been told and unless I go to a setup more like this, il just get smoked.Plus it will handle any tuna barrels that I might get one day.Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bungplug 72 Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Catalina models do a PE8 rod that matches well to the 6500 reel with 80lb braid I have the above and also a Catalina 4500 with PE4 rod spooled with 50lb braid. Love both outfits (upgraded both drags to carbontex). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ASD14 197 Posted February 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 I thought daiwa stop making the catalina rods, unless some shops have stock left?? or are they an import rod? But yeah I recon that could be the go mate.. Do you like the carbontex washers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bungplug 72 Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 yep bit smoother with the carbontex. Cheap mod you can do yourself (got them for about $6 each reel - ebay) I know my PE4 was an import - not sure re the PE8 but quite possibly - did get them a couple of years ago and my reels are the original model not the latest version. ASD14 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nikhum 16 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Get the Demon Blood 56-6/8 that would be killa with the catalina 6500. That would sort out both species! Don't worry about overkilling the tuna you will thank yourself when the 26kg BFT smashes your lure. ASD14 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ASD14 197 Posted February 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Nikhum - Yeah that's the other thing ey, when a barrel locks on, having some stick up your sleeve is good! Plus I can use it for sharks, sambos etc.. Might run some PE6 line and call it a day, cheers boys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hugo 120 Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 Not a bad choice to go a bit heavier than needed on the Tuna. Nothing worse than prolonging the fight beyond what's necessary and increases the probability of getting sharked. I use a Saltiga deep 55 rod with an 8000 sized shimano for tuna trolling and bottom bouncing/jigging for Kings and Sambo's and find it suitable, so good choice with the demon blood 6/8. ASD14 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ASD14 197 Posted February 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 Hugo - yeah that's it mate good point, well im not going for the demon blood, im getting the new daiwa saltist extreme, its abit higher spec'd than the demon blood. But will be in the PE6/8 rating still.Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fishing Wholesalers 11 Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Gday Boys, As the title suggests, im looking at getting a dedicated Tuna / kingfish spin rod setup...It will be used trolling for tuna at victor, livebaiting kingies at augusta,, some light jigging for sambos etc etc What is everyone using/recommend?? I'm thinking at this stage getting a Daiwa Saltist Extreme pe5/6 rod with a Daiwa Catalina 5000 reel running 50lb braid. Do you think this setup an overkill for tuna? but perfect for kingies? cheers Hi Mate. Did you get your combo sorted yet?. Some great info on this thread already and thought id offer my experience. I personally use a Saltiga Expedition 5500 Spin reel for both the tuna and kings. Have it matched with a old model Saltiga 50lb rod (Spartan) with 50lb Saltiga casting braid and a 60lb wind on leader. It pulls most tuna under 25kg up pretty quick and the 23kg king I got at Port Augusta was at the side of the boat in under 5 minutes. Im changing rod this season, as the skull dragging style isn't really my thing. If you are in the area, i usually have it at the shop when I'm not fishing and you're welcome to see the action of that outfit. Aways good to get comparisons. I personally am thinking of buying one of those Saltist Extreme PE 3/4 rods, or maybe a Penn Amarda Powercurve Rod, as both of these rods have lots of action and I think they will be better suited to the type of fishing i do. Anyway, hope it helps, >>> James Fishing Wholesalers Open 7 Days 200 Dyson Rd Lonsdale Ph 8382 7382 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ASD14 197 Posted April 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Hi James,Thanks for your input mate! I still haven't sorted out a combo for tuna & kingies yet, as I am like you and don't like skull dragging fish in. Im still making my mind up on which way to go as ive just bought the daiwa saltist extreme pe2-4 rod paired with the new 2015 daiwa saltiga 4000 reel (my snapper weapon). Its a wonderful combo and that's why im keen on getting another one similar, but may go for the PE5/6 stick as the action didn't seem too stiff when I played with it last.I don't live anywhere near Lonsdale, but I may come past one weekend anyway and have a look mate.Cheers, Alex. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adamibinfishin 224 Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Old thread but been some good old school saltiga reels and rods for sale 2nd hand.Good for guys chasing quality gear!!!! Picked up 2 nice old school sticks lately myself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rooboy123 9 Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Tell me more!! I can only afford the high tech gear when it's second hand Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adamibinfishin 224 Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Gumtree bud, and keep an eye on all the forums too. I picked up a expedition 55 deep in spin and also a brand new unused expedition southern shaft 58s too. The jap model with factory gimbal. Fairly rare rod. Same guy has a unused low speed 6000z saltiga too if anyone wants his details.cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rooboy123 9 Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Cheers mate. I saw a brand new old model dorado A-rounder sold on FeeBay a few weeks ago. I think I like the old school coz it was all new and shiny when my tackle obsession first started, but I couldn't afford it all at the time!!! adamibinfishin 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plankton 725 Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 I just put together a tuna/kingie combo for casting poppers, stickbaits and bigger metal lures. The reel is a Fin Nor Lethal 100 and for the rod I chose an Ugly Stik Bluewater 7' 15-24kg. A tough rod with a softer glass tip but plenty of grunt down low, plus Fuji heavy duty reel seat and alconite guides with a SiC tip. Best thing is the price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Knackers 696 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I just got my dedicated tuna/kingy/GT and throwing poppers/stickbait combo sorted. Daiwa Saltiga 5500 Expedition with a 6'6" Live Fibre Venom PE 2-5. If it is big tuna and shallow reef and structure for GT then the "broomstick" Terez and the Saltiga Dogfight will be the go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adamibinfishin 224 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Good size the expedition 5500,lighter and easier to use for extended use and still enough grunt. More user friendly than a 6500. Running a Smith Offshore stick on mine. Great rod for Gt or kings,tuna etc. Suited for med poppers and still soft enough for stickbaiting. Very versatile.cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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