Underpants 1,543 Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Need to replace the reel on my 1-3kg outfit. The current Shimano Symetre FL 1000 is 'grabbing' somehow in the retrieve , making it near impossible to work the light lures. I have stripped & lubed twice now, inc bearings for it to return to the same condition after a couple of sessions. Too much time wasted! Don't want to spend big $ as this is used 90% wading, where it undoubtedly gets splashed more than it should and i cant see a $200 reel being any better than $100 in this regard. Im not 'brandist' but have generally been a Shimano man....dumb question , what is the equivalent sized Daiwa to a Shimano 1000? At this stage im leaning towards a Sedona FD 1000 (have a 2500 for years which just wont die). With the new Sedona FE now out the remaining FDs are good value too ($54.95 from SneakyFisho) Thoughts? Tinker 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kuerschie 2,309 Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 The old Sedonas were a nice reel for value. The new ones aren't too bad from what I've heard. Other nice reels around that mark are the current Daiwa Legalis 2014 model, ATC Valiant For what you're looking at, a Daiwa 2000, 2504, 2506 would be ideal as each size holds around 120m of PE1. http://daiwafishing.com.au/products/spinning-reel-spools-part-1/ Underpants 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ludaqryz 290 Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 You could try what I found has been a great reel Siena 1000. Cheaper $38-$59 depending where you buy. Best price was $38 at BCF sale. Had the reel for two years, it gets rinsed fresh and innox spray after each session and still reels like new. For this price there is no need to really be concerned about knocks and bumps so more focus can be on fishing and I am sure most fisho's that use or have owned one would agree they are worth it and would likely be on par with most other spin reels under $100 or more. Tinker, Underpants, Zorgs and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Underpants 1,543 Posted February 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Indeed i lie! I busted the Sedona falling at OH breakwater and its the cheaper Sienna 2500 that im still using, with the Sedona spool on it..... just to confuse me. Tinker 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smokeykebab 175 Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 i have the sedona 2500 and rate the sienna better than it. Tinker and Underpants 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
projoe 261 Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 hey undies when you had the symetre a part did you check the spool shaft for a bend or wear have found this in the past to be problem with lighter reels that are shall we say not given the TLC they should get. Tinker and Underpants 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tinker 1,645 Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Get another Symetre. Love my Shimano stuff, from Siennas up. Not sure if they come in 1000s, but Exage RDs are never say die. And interchangeable with Sienna RDs if you want to swap spools. Underpants 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brenton 637 Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 go shimano the newer ones have Xship which makes them even smoother imo,SFS have a new Sienna model that is 5:1 and 50 odd dollars which has that smoother Daiwa feel due to the lower ratio. cheers b ludaqryz and Underpants 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
southie THE BANGA 2,304 Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 ATC Valiant with out a doubt! Underpants 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
southie THE BANGA 2,304 Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 http://www.wilsonfishing.com.au/_products//Reels/ATC+Reels/ATC+Valiant+Reels-320-7634-.aspx I know they aren't 1000 size reels but are light and are super smooth.... Theres 2 versions the normal and the saltwater model. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Underpants 1,543 Posted February 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 ATC Valliant 2000: 5.2:1, 8+1 bearings, Carbon drag washers & 7kg drag!. Very curious.....plus ive never heard of them! Anyone local stock them so i can have a feel? 2000 a bit big tho and still recon i'll lean towards a Shimano 1000. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Underpants 1,543 Posted February 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Let's Go Fishing's a bit far south for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
piratepom 3,197 Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Hi mate, I use a 1000 Symetre and a 1000 Sienna on my Bream/Flathead/Whatever set ups and love them both. I've had a Sedonna FD(?) 1500 for donkeys years and it's still going strong. For what you want, reliability, and the price I'd recommend any of these. Can't comment on any other brands as I don't use them and sounds like you know about these reels anyway. If you somehow manage to kill a Sienna it doesn't cost much to replace it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
seagypsy 1,182 Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Love the Siennas, such good value. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AquaticResearch1 1,046 Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 For all round value Imo the Sienna is king, you don't really feel a difference 'till that $120 ish price range. In the 1000's I run a Symetre FJ, its copped a dunking and continued like new. If I were wading frequently the Sienna would be my go to, if not, splash a little more on a Symetre Quote Link to post Share on other sites
portluck 117 Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 For what it's worth I have an old Shimano 2500 FB that I've been dragging around for years. No maintenance apart from a wash after every outing and it hasn't missed a beat. Great little reel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
seagypsy 1,182 Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Sienna 2500 claimed this Underpants, piratepom and Brankim 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Underpants 1,543 Posted February 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 That's awesome!......what line & terminal? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
seagypsy 1,182 Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 20 lb braid down to a 30lb short trace. I have a few siennas that mates use when on my boat. This was his first snapper. Handled it no worries. I have a few sustains aswell, id much rather spend 50 bucks on a sienna then $300 on a sustain. Underpants 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
seagypsy 1,182 Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I think, Im not a tackle buff. I don't know what line is on all my reels. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
outandabout 373 Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I've had a Penn Powergraph 1000 for at least 25 years,and not missed a beat. Most probably can't get them anymore?..........scored mine from "good old Kmart" for the grand total of $24.99 Dare say there's a lot better around these days though........ This ones not mine,a pic off eBay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
southie THE BANGA 2,304 Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Im actually really surprised with the comments been said about the siennas. My personal experience with them has been nothing but bad. Drag clickers breaking drag not working. Not smooth. Feel cheap etc. Guess bad luck on my part i guess Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plankton 725 Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I would definitely recommend the Symetre, I have four, two 2500 and two 3000, and they are great reels. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Underpants 1,543 Posted February 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Bought a Symetre 1000FL last night, using the "spend $100 get $20 off" deal from a certain retail chain. Now will have at 2 spools if i cant get the older reel running satisfactorily. Im actually really surprised with the comments been said about the siennas.My personal experience with them has been nothing but bad.Drag clickers breaking drag not working. Not smooth. Feel cheap etc.Guess bad luck on my part i guess Had the drag clicker brake on a 2500, as this was not replaceable, meant a new spool - or reel in this case given the negligible price difference! Replaced with a Sedona, which i then fell on and broke. Good thing these spools were interchangeable so the Sienna is still going strong, just with the Sedona spool! piratepom and seagypsy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scissors 308 Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I have found the 1000 Sienna to be a great little reel but was not impressed with the 2500. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
seagypsy 1,182 Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Penn slammer 260 would be another bomb proof option. southie THE BANGA and Bait Caster 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Underpants 1,543 Posted February 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Penn slammer 260 would be another bomb proof option. Indeed. Ive a 260, 360, 560 and 2 x 560L! Too heavy to balance the lil' 1-3kg flick stick tho. seagypsy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
southie THE BANGA 2,304 Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 I spoke to James today about trying to get some ATC Valiant reels instore, unfortunately we dont have an account with Wilson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dylbaa 174 Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 Shimano sienna 1000 size reels are on sale at tackleworld adelaide metro $30, the old model but plenty swear by them! Pretty good value imo, personally use a stradic but got friends who land the same coorong mullies as me on them.... ludaqryz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ludaqryz 290 Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 Wow $30 get two! Dylbaa 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zorgs 141 Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Daiwa Aird 2000 with spare 1000 spool is/was another option. Brankim 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adamibinfishin 224 Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Shimano 1000 Aspire is a gun choice if u can get hold of one. Wasn't much between the stella of the same year besides a bearing or 2. If u can find one. Mine has been great, several years old now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sbarnden 397 Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 My sienna 2500 was a great reel for a few years of abuse. However after a few saltwater dunking's it has a sticky drag and even worse, a sticky retrieve where I struggle to turn the handle sometimes. Even after a couple of rebuilds. Still for the price I don't really care, I can always buy another at the price they go for every couple of years and still be less than most other reels of that quality. The Exage RC with fighting drag comes in a 1000 size which is what I was using for my light work. Bit more expensive but has been a great little reel. Just started to get some lumpyness on the drag and the service noted the felt washers are a bit thin now but has really performed well and came with a spare spool. Caught some great fish on it up to a 5kg eagle ray and bigger that took it screaming into the distance before busting them off. Why I keep getting big rays on tiny bits of squid I don't know. Being able to manipulate the drag with the lever at the back has been useful but not really a must-have feature. Generally I use it to back the drag off enough to pull line through without having to flip the bail or backwind. Dylbaa 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Underpants 1,543 Posted March 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 Used the new Symetre Saturday, loaded up with a 35 & 38cm ST plus heaps around just legal. Just chucked the old spool on the new reel. Super smooth so easy to forget how good they are 'supposed' to feel! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brankim 945 Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 I rate daiwa for the salt! ESP the newer ones with mag seal grease (magnetic grease) They are pricey, but IMO, well worth it! My old luvias had the mag seal, but my 2 sols didn't, and they were really worn till I recently replaced them! But still put in a great innings after lasting me a good 14 years! My luvias was the same age, and never serviced, but was still smooth as silk, and dead quiet! Pity I stood on it! Very happy with my new luvias and my caldia!! Jap model daiwa's are the best IMO... Come with all the high performance bearings and long cast spools. The new luvias has a very fine drag settings!! (You can give it a good turn for very little increase in pressure) ideal for light lines! Smooth and quiet! The reals with more drag pressure are much easier to make one click too many and cost you a good fish, with the radiculous amounts of drag pressure they put out!! Seems Really pointless having a 2000 model with more than 3-4 kgs of drag to me! Unless you're fishing for Barra I guess... Arid would be the best value for money! But personally, I don't like the spool shape for distance.. But very handy being able to upsize reels by simply changing you're spool size with them! Got a shimmano symetre also that I won, and very happy with that, but time will tell how long it lasts in the salt... Not a fan of the plastic rotor it has... Hasn't let me down, but I just don't trust plastic parts! Too many bad experiences in the past buying reels that weren't all metal parts! 1 word of advice if you have a daiwa... Don't spray any aerosol lubes on them!! Just strips the magnetic grease of them. In fact any reel! It helps when they're seized up... But really grease is the way to go! I was given a can of inox free with my sols, and they were never the same after that! They still lasted, but always ran slightly rough, and got noisier as the years passed, until the sound of winding was louder than the drags... But they did get a lot of abuse in there time with me plenty big carp, bream, schoolies, snapped and eagle Ray's... Not at all what 2000 size models are designed to do battle with :) Zorgs 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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