yellow door 1 1,821 Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 A mate sent me some footage of him trying to get his hand bitten off by a Mako. I says - just make yourself a de-hooker - should be a piece of piss He says - If its a piece of piss - why dont you make me one Job Done Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peatop 224 Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 Just like a Shepards croc i watch a guy drag a largish schoolie into his yak scarey where it first landed was ok as i think he already had kids Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,821 Posted August 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 24 minutes ago, peatop said: Just like a Shepards croc i watch a guy drag a largish schoolie into his yak scarey where it first landed was ok as i think he already had kids Yeah I get scared while trying to take a lure out of a bream, so I cringe when I see people playing with sharks I cant guarantee the first shark wouldnt chomp straight through the golf club handle - but I built one to see how useful that weird hook could be for backing out big lures - it would be a handy tool if made properly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peatop 224 Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 Looked pretty good to me, i think a ss or aluminum shaft, fiberglass or carbon fiber would be to week if things went south, so far I've been lucky enough that they've bitten through the fluoro leader not sure what I'll do when i go chase some Mackerel and hookup to a toothy? Lol maybe a pair of long handle bolt cutters or a dental drill and scare them to death Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,821 Posted August 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 44 minutes ago, peatop said: Looked pretty good to me, i think a ss or aluminum shaft, fiberglass or carbon fiber would be to week if things went south, so far I've been lucky enough that they've bitten through the fluoro leader not sure what I'll do when i go chase some Mackerel and hookup to a toothy? Lol maybe a pair of long handle bolt cutters or a dental drill and scare them to death Haha - Yeah at least you always have a knife to cut the line I just whipped one up out of stuff I had lying around in the garage. My mate trolls behind a yacht, so I figure a longish pole that could deal with lures would be best - But I like the versatility of the Shepherds crook design allowing 2 types of removal SS shaft would be the go Heres some commercially produced variants. I did watch a vid where a guy welds half a chain link to some 16mm rebar - it would take a megladon to go through that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter69 1,461 Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 One of these would have been handy today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,821 Posted August 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, Hunter69 said: One of these would have been handy today. Yeah - where I fish, big stingrays and sharks arent a problem - but tiny flathead are a menace - so I always have a smaller version on hand - You can dehook them while they're still in the water and come home with a full tank of blood Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peatop 224 Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 Everytime I've caught toothies they've always broken the fluoro, but the last one had to come for a 3km peddle before she broke the leader, she was a bit feisty and didn't feel like trying to remove my hand oops cut through the line. Yeah i think the 2 way removal would be the better option yellow door 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Plectropomus 373 Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 Sharks are a menace up here when floating out pillies for mackerel. If they eat the pillie you think you've hooked the mother-of-all-macks, but mostly they eat the mackerel after you hook up. I gaff the hooks on those littlies I do get boatside and let the shark bend them open to release. Not easy, and not good for the shark. Yours is a good idea, but more clutter for the tinny on top of the net and gaff (both of which seem to leap up and play trip-n-tangle when stumbling around fighting a decent fish). I reckon weld up a "crook" onto the bottom of gaff hook. Bottom of the hook gape so it does not foul the line when missing the gaff shot, and facing in an opposing direction to help "push" the hook(s) out. peatop 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,821 Posted October 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 10 hours ago, Plectropomus said: Sharks are a menace up here when floating out pillies for mackerel. If they eat the pillie you think you've hooked the mother-of-all-macks, but mostly they eat the mackerel after you hook up. I gaff the hooks on those littlies I do get boatside and let the shark bend them open to release. Not easy, and not good for the shark. Yours is a good idea, but more clutter for the tinny on top of the net and gaff (both of which seem to leap up and play trip-n-tangle when stumbling around fighting a decent fish). I reckon weld up a "crook" onto the bottom of gaff hook. Bottom of the hook gape so it does not foul the line when missing the gaff shot, and facing in an opposing direction to help "push" the hook(s) out. Yeah If I could weld - my dodgy bit of diy would be dangerous I'm all for multi use items - your plan sounds like a very good idea Heres a bullet proof version from a bloke who can weld - couldnt be to hard to weld half a chain link to a gaff if you had the skills Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AuusieDave 765 Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 I generally use a 30lb trace which ensures toothy critters tend to bite me off pretty quick as I don't really want to be landing anything too big and toothy in my yak, especially in SA. On 26/08/2019 at 7:23 PM, peatop said: Looked pretty good to me, i think a ss or aluminum shaft, fiberglass or carbon fiber would be to week if things went south, so far I've been lucky enough that they've bitten through the fluoro leader not sure what I'll do when i go chase some Mackerel and hookup to a toothy? Lol maybe a pair of long handle bolt cutters or a dental drill and scare them to death Don't worry mate, if your talking about SWR in March, I had no issues up there last year as the sharks that took my mackerel lines with wire traces were only reef sharks to about 5 foot. I'm sure there's some bigger ones around, in fact this one Shane caught was a reasonable size. Dave David_C 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Plectropomus 373 Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 2 hours ago, yellow door 1 said: Yeah If I could weld - my dodgy bit of diy would be dangerous I'm all for multi use items - your plan sounds like a very good idea Heres a bullet proof version from a bloke who can weld - couldnt be to hard to weld half a chain link to a gaff if you had the skills I will give it a go and post a pic here when I do it. I bent up some heavy 316 stainless rod to make my own gaff, using heat and a piece of water pipe as a sleeve-lever. I have some SS chain and thinner rod I can cut to make the "crook" to weld under the gaff hook. Thanks for sharing the idea! All the net closures and license buybacks from NSW up to the Cape have certainly been a boon to rec .fishers in many ways -- but they have released the inshore bull shark/pig-eye shark pups from a major source of mortality. They were a significant gillnet bycatch and sold as "flake" (fillets) in the local market. Now folk are being sharked like crazy by "bull sharks" offshore. Tagged bulls (acoustic tags) have gone from Botany Bay to Townsville, and from Cairns/Townsville back down to NSW. I even saw a shark get "sharked". Anglers in sthn WA eat little "bronzies", but Qlders scorn shark. If we ate some little bulls caught in the creeks we might dent the population a bit. Here are some bits I "got back" yellow door 1 and Squid Inc. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peatop 224 Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 @Aussie Dave yeah im hoping to do the SWR trip this year/season sharks don't bother me, i seem to catch my fair share of toothies, i did purchase a shark shield this year and adapted it to run off my 17.5 Ah kayak battery, after talking to minni in portland about near misses and it has also been heavily discussed in vyak at times, but yeah it all about the release, how to release them with no injuries to them or myself a lot of my fishing is done with circle hooks so it's a matter or cutting the line as close as possible to the hook count your fingers after it's done lol AuusieDave 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Plectropomus 373 Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 On 24/10/2019 at 7:49 AM, yellow door 1 said: Yeah If I could weld - my dodgy bit of diy would be dangerous I'm all for multi use items - your plan sounds like a very good idea Heres a bullet proof version from a bloke who can weld - couldnt be to hard to weld half a chain link to a gaff if you had the skills I built on your by-catch de-hooking device and saved room by welding it to my gaff. Gaff and dehooker all made from scrounged 316 SS rod. Pokes the hook out while they are still in the water boatside. Field-tested today on a big barracuda, but failed on a long-tom which had the whole hook inside its mouth. Worked today (in practice!) on a circle hook by pushing whole hook (and trace) back through the jaw, then I opened the swivel to free the trace. "J"hooks will go straight back out the way they came in (in theory, anyway). Better than trying to gaff the gang hooks away from angry sharks, I hope. I did learn that lots of tension has to be placed on the line in one hand, gaff in the other, with rod in holder...and that the dehooker will probably only work if the hook point is accessible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,821 Posted January 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 That looks awesome - yeah if it keep your hands away from half the toothies you come into contact with, then it was worth the effort Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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