yellow door 1 1,821 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 Squid Inc. and Tinker 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Softy 2,991 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 Used to use them as a kid in dad's boat at lake Eildon jagging redfin next to dead trees and stumps.Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,821 Posted May 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 Yeah they look like some “mullet lures” I’ve seen basically a lump of metal to jag with Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Plectropomus 373 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 "Baltic Bobbers" http://www.jmgillies.com.au/product/bobber/ Long versions, or long copies thereof, used to be THE gun mulloway lures in the surf at the Murray Mouth (Coorong) in the 1970's !!! BELIEVE IT OR NOT!!! Squid Inc. and Tinker 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Plectropomus 373 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 "Bernie Shzot's Baltic series were, the Flash and Minnow which were the through line models, the Bobber which had the fixed double and the Gardie." See http://www.lurelovers.com/forum/paw-paw-and-more_topic1773.html Being of a certain age myself, I remember when lure choice was easy in SA. The lure rack ws dominated by heavy metals: there were only Halco slices (with a red tag if you were flash), "Wonder Wobblers", "Wonder Pilchards", "Stingsildas", "WK Arrows" and "Baltic Bobbers/Gardies". Occasionally stocked were "Rebel Killers" (entire Minnows department), and "Flopys" (sole occupant of luxury, high-end soft plastics row!). Then "silver fox" VibroTails came on the scene and away it all went.......I still catch fish on my Wonder Wobblers and metal slices. I remember a summer when the mullowasy were on in the surf that I could not buy a "Gardie" anywhere Squid Inc. and Tinker 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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yellow door 1 1,821 Posted May 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 Thanks for all the info Plec - I spose ID-ing a lure was alot easier back then - as they were only 5 of them How did you retrieve these metals for Mulloway - Hop hop pause or straight retrieve? Plectropomus and Tinker 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tinker 1,645 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 My Granddad used these on Goolwa beach when I was a wee lad.Salmon and mulloway in the suds.Big split cane beach rod which to me as a little kid was huge and heavy.And an Alvey reel.Sent from my SM-J120ZN using Tapatalk Plectropomus and yellow door 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tinker 1,645 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 And they would cast out into a wave and retrieve it with the motion of the ocean.And even though I don't eat my catch nowadays they made me eat the fish we caught. Terrible childhood I had.Some of my earliest memories involve those lures.Sent from my SM-J120ZN using Tapatalk yellow door 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,821 Posted May 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 Ahh I spose retrieving with an alvey ensures you arent brining it in that quick. I've got them on blades before but I havent thought to use metal slug type lures Tinker 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tinker 1,645 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 Just remember to reel in fast when the wave is breaking so the line doesn't foul up the hook at the back.Wish I had my Granddads rod now but I still have an Alvey reel matched up with a Wilson 10ft one piece rod that lives in my dining room.But these days I use Spanyid Raiders or big blades coz they cast accurately right next the salmon schools and don't spook the fish.Old metal lures are the ducks nuts coz they cast a mile and never say die but they also have some bad habits and don't copy the action of a wounded baitfish.Big blades are also good but the trebles are prone to gathering weed at times like the Spanyids.The old lures were more weed proof but swam too straight.Sent from my SM-J120ZN using Tapatalk yellow door 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Plectropomus 373 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 4 hours ago, yellow door 1 said: Thanks for all the info Plec - I spose ID-ing a lure was alot easier back then - as they were only 5 of them How did you retrieve these metals for Mulloway - Hop hop pause or straight retrieve? There were'nt no "hop hop" about it with an Alvey 650C5 and 13 foot Butterworth blank!!! Hop hop" was not in our rule books. It was flat out for as long as you could stand it for me!!. I remember retrieving flat out off the cliffs at Troubridge Point for salmon and seeing them idle up and then casually peel off...despite me busting a boiler and going as fast I could to overcome the marvellous 1:1 gear ratio!! I spun up a few salmon on the Alvey but never even looked like getting a mulloway, and firmly believed they only took Baltic bobber "gardies"!! Mind you, if someone said bream (or even snapper) could be caught on lures back then, they'd be accused of lunacy and utter fishing inexperience. Some of us even believed that aniseed was an "illegal bait additive" under fisheries law because it was so deadly. It certainly made the dough better to eat when waiting for a goldfish carp to bite in the Torrens....... The only thing we had besides word of mouth was the eagerly-awaited David Capel fishing column in the Sunday Mail, and Cyril Seidel (in tie and coat) and his bait rigs on ABC TV Friday night {"first high tides for Saturday}. Anyway, better not go on and bore the younger folk on here.... yellow door 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,821 Posted May 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 11 hours ago, Tinker said: Just remember to reel in fast when the wave is breaking so the line doesn't foul up the hook at the back. Wish I had my Granddads rod now but I still have an Alvey reel matched up with a Wilson 10ft one piece rod that lives in my dining room. But these days I use Spanyid Raiders or big blades coz they cast accurately right next the salmon schools and don't spook the fish. Old metal lures are the ducks nuts coz they cast a mile and never say die but they also have some bad habits and don't copy the action of a wounded baitfish. Big blades are also good but the trebles are prone to gathering weed at times like the Spanyids. The old lures were more weed proof but swam too straight. Sent from my SM-J120ZN using Tapatalk Yeah when I was loooking at the profile of these old lures they looked like they could do with a bit of bending to get some action out of them Tinker 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,821 Posted May 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 9 hours ago, Plectropomus said: There were'nt no "hop hop" about it with an Alvey 650C5 and 13 foot Butterworth blank!!! Hop hop" was not in our rule books. It was flat out for as long as you could stand it for me!!. I remember retrieving flat out off the cliffs at Troubridge Point for salmon and seeing them idle up and then casually peel off...despite me busting a boiler and going as fast I could to overcome the marvellous 1:1 gear ratio!! I spun up a few salmon on the Alvey but never even looked like getting a mulloway, and firmly believed they only took Baltic bobber "gardies"!! Mind you, if someone said bream (or even snapper) could be caught on lures back then, they'd be accused of lunacy and utter fishing inexperience. Some of us even believed that aniseed was an "illegal bait additive" under fisheries law because it was so deadly. It certainly made the dough better to eat when waiting for a goldfish carp to bite in the Torrens....... The only thing we had besides word of mouth was the eagerly-awaited David Capel fishing column in the Sunday Mail, and Cyril Seidel (in tie and coat) and his bait rigs on ABC TV Friday night {"first high tides for Saturday}. Anyway, better not go on and bore the younger folk on here.... Yeah I’ve had limited experience with alveys but I do remember them casting a mile......but bringing the line back in wasn’t much fun yeah I’ve never understood aniseed scent in the salt. I know there are plants that grow along the creeks that smell a lot like aniseed so it wouldn’t be too “foreign” a scent there - and would probably mask some human odours but I wonder why it works well out in the salt. i occasionally think some people catch fish in spite of the scents they are using, not because of them like wd40 - a lot of people used to use because they believed it was made from fish oil but the website says that isn’t true. But i spose when the fish you are targeting mistakes golf balls for duck eggs - you aren’t dealing with the most discerning palate Tinker 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,821 Posted May 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 12 hours ago, Tinker said: Just remember to reel in fast when the wave is breaking so the line doesn't foul up the hook at the back. Wish I had my Granddads rod now but I still have an Alvey reel matched up with a Wilson 10ft one piece rod that lives in my dining room. But these days I use Spanyid Raiders or big blades coz they cast accurately right next the salmon schools and don't spook the fish. Old metal lures are the ducks nuts coz they cast a mile and never say die but they also have some bad habits and don't copy the action of a wounded baitfish. Big blades are also good but the trebles are prone to gathering weed at times like the Spanyids. The old lures were more weed proof but swam too straight. Sent from my SM-J120ZN using Tapatalk Yeah nothing worse than casting a mile then coming up solid to a clump of weed as soon as you turn the handle. I’ve switched some of my metals trebles over to singles to help minimise this problem Tinker 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,821 Posted May 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 16 hours ago, Softy said: Used to use them as a kid in dad's boat at lake Eildon jagging redfin next to dead trees and stumps. Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk I can imagine with todays sounders and a vigorous jig - you wouldnt even have to wait for the fish to be hungry Softy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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