TENNANT 29 Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 I just bought some 12lb Shimano fluorocarbon leader. It's really difficult to work with. Are there any other brands than are more flexibly and less prone to twisting? Tying #8 hooks is fiddly enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,822 Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 Yeah its annoying when you try a new line, only to find out its got some bad traits. In general, flourocarbons have a harder outer coating and dont absorb water like alot of mono's do. That has a tendancy to make them less supple. Some companies like Berkley Vanish make a "leader" version and a "main line" version of their flourocarbon. So maybe a "Main Line" version would be a bit more supple When you say twist - are you spooling your whole reel with it or just cutting off 2m sections for leaders. Unfortunately I dont have a recommendation for you, as I only use flouro as leader and havent experienced your issues - but good luck in your search Heres some, the Breammasters recommended, when the issue of spooling up your whole reel with flouro came up Sunline Assassin FC MB Dragon Call Unitka Silver Thread famell spinning fluoro Yamatoyo spinning fluoro Famell spinning fc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TENNANT 29 Posted October 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 2 hours ago, yellow door 1 said: Yeah its annoying when you try a new line, only to find out its got some bad traits. In general, flourocarbons have a harder outer coating and dont absorb water like alot of mono's do. That has a tendancy to make them less supple. Some companies like Berkley Vanish make a "leader" version and a "main line" version of their flourocarbon. So maybe a "Main Line" version would be a bit more supple When you say twist - are you spooling your whole reel with it or just cutting off 2m sections for leaders. Unfortunately I dont have a recommendation for you, as I only use flouro as leader and havent experienced your issues - but good luck in your search Heres some, the Breammasters recommended, when the issue of spooling up your whole reel with flouro came up Sunline Assassin FC MB Dragon Call Unitka Silver Thread famell spinning fluoro Yamatoyo spinning fluoro Famell spinning fc I'm running 15 lb braid as a main line, then a 12lb fluoro carbon leader and some times a short length of cheap 10lb line to the sinker below that, so if I snag I only lose the sinker. I have always just, used Mono for traces, but thought I should try the Fluoro Carbon. Even after I have finished the rig it's not sitting as neatly as I want. Which brand of fluoro carbon are you using for leader? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doobie 5,802 Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 I use Berley FC 8lb and don't have any issues. You could try soaking the Shimano spool ( or cut off bits) in some warm water to take out the 'memory' - works for mono at least. TENNANT 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soobz 557 Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 Sunline FC Rock for me. Berkley Vanish is more supple but also the knots break easier. I'm not 100% convinced that FC is better than mono for leaders, though it does seem a lot tougher when roughed up. TENNANT 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,822 Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 I currently use Berkley vanish main line Fluoro and I’m testing out this stuff by kast king. It’s mono coated with fluoro according to the add (I just got it because it was cheap and I like my other kast king braids) I didn’t recommend them because I wasn’t sure how you were using them and I don’t know if they are great or not. But they do what I need them to do Kinks in leaders can be stretched out or rubbed out if they’re stubborn. I often do that to my pretied rigs, on my 2 piece rods that I break down for travel. They develop a kink in the line, where it wraps over the guide - so I just stretch the leader back into shape before fishing it. Guys will rub a kinked leader over their tracksuit pants for friction to get the kinks out. But stretching is all I’ve ever needed P.s. I went back to mono leaders for a while - but I found out the Berkley trilene I was using loses 50% of its abrasion resistance when submerged for 10mins. It’s because it’s absorbs water and gets soft. And abrasion resistance is very important to the way I fish so while it performed well in dry land tests - getting it wet was an issue TENNANT 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wert 470 Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 Fluro leaders here too, any brand on special is my favourite, have 6lb up to 80lb, I find the stiffness reduces tangles and makes patternosters in particular sit beautifully. Tying up does take practice as I find little imperfections in your knot that in mono you never noticed will always show up in fluro. Uni knots, perfection loops, Hawaiian droppers (loop or cut for a trace) and snoods all work fine you just need to practice bed them in carefully and be prepared to re-tie a few. Good luck and don't give up I reckon and I'm sure others will agree fluro is great when you get the hang of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SurfcaztR 707 Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 I like this one for price and reliability yellow door 1 and TENNANT 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yorky 309 Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 I use Sunline FC Rock fluorocarbon as a leader from 6lb to 30lb & don't have any problems with knots, one thing with tying knots in fluoro is to make sure that your knots are well lubricated before tightening so that the line slides easily in the knot, any friction in the knot will weaken the line & make an ugly knot. I have a customer that often gets me to tie an FG knot to join his 6lb braid to a 6lb fluoro leader for his YF Whiting lure fishing, I can understand why the fish find it hard to see , I need bloody good light to see it TENNANT 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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