yellow door 1 1,841 Posted June 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Softy said: Nice haul! Yeah we drove over a school of monster gars with whiting underneath, 30m from the ramp. I was heavily hinting that I though we should drop anchor and burley. But it wasnt my boat and they were heading out to a mark they had done well on. After 3 drops of the anchor, following local internet guru tips and only wrasse to show for it - I was bighting my tongue. But then the locals kicked it old school and went searching for prominent weed beds with long patches of sand leading up to them. With a fair bit of polaroiding - a couple of half hearted - "Should we drop here's" they finally found a weed edge neither of them could argue about. And then it was on - good times Softy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,841 Posted July 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 Plastic drinking straw Hot glue end caps with a swivel shoved in Red heat shrink indicator Softy and doobie 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doobie 5,802 Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 4 hours ago, yellow door 1 said: Plastic drinking straw Hot glue end caps with a swivel shoved in Red heat shrink indicator Interesting, but reckon the straw would get bent out shape quickly or swivel will work loose under pressure a few times. Just have to add the hot glue gun and batter powered hair dryer to heat shrink the indicator to the tackle bag Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,841 Posted July 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 36 minutes ago, doobie said: Interesting, but reckon the straw would get bent out shape quickly or swivel will work loose under pressure a few times. Just have to add the hot glue gun and batter powered hair dryer to heat shrink the indicator to the tackle bag Haha - Yeah I havent used it yet - so im not sure how it will go during the water trials Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,841 Posted July 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 One innovative use of plastic that never fails is the old dust pan worm collecter - just head to the local car park and start scooping em up - got about 80 from this stretch - some big boys in amoungst them doobie and Kelvin 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
malb 62 Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 Slightly off topic, and I know it's been discussed before, but is there a definitive answer on whether garden worms are effective in salt water fishing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,841 Posted July 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 3 hours ago, malb said: Slightly off topic, and I know it's been discussed before, but is there a definitive answer on whether garden worms are effective in salt water fishing? Great question Malb - Thats something I was wondering about aswell. I know estuarine species like bream love them but I havent used them out in the bay. I have seen a guy slaying grass whiting on them in pure salt water but I wonder what other whiting think of them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,841 Posted July 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 Just asked the question on a few facebook pages and alot of people mention bream Other mentions are Garfish, trevally, KG whiting, flatties, snapper, pinkies and small Jewies .....- to be continued....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doobie 5,802 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 8 hours ago, malb said: Slightly off topic, and I know it's been discussed before, but is there a definitive answer on whether garden worms are effective in salt water fishing? I have tried garden worms in salt water and was a waste of time - die very quickly and became soggy. Although many years ago I use garden worms in the Patawalonga between the lock and 1st bridge and hooked up Bream. Maybe due to some fresh water in the Pat helped the worms to live a little longer. Also tried Catchall Crawlers (good for Sea and fresh water) - wasn't impressed with them either - died quickly. yellow door 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,841 Posted July 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 Salmon mullet and flounder have also been mentioned Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rybak 641 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 7 hours ago, yellow door 1 said: Slightly off topic, and I know it's been discussed before, but is there a definitive answer on whether garden worms are effective in salt water fishing? I have tried garden worms in salt water and was a waste of time - die very quickly and became soggy. Although many years ago I use garden worms in the Patawalonga between the lock and 1st bridge and hooked up Bream. Maybe due to some fresh water in the Pat helped the worms to live a little longer. Also tried Catchall Crawlers (good for Sea and fresh water) - wasn't impressed with them either - died quickly. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have mucked around with garden worms. They seem to burst easily & obviously die quickly in saltwater. Have tried salting & brining as well. Not much luck really so gave up on them. Just get salted tubies now. yellow door 1 and doobie 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,841 Posted July 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 37 minutes ago, Rybak said: Slightly off topic, and I know it's been discussed before, but is there a definitive answer on whether garden worms are effective in salt water fishing? I have tried garden worms in salt water and was a waste of time - die very quickly and became soggy. Although many years ago I use garden worms in the Patawalonga between the lock and 1st bridge and hooked up Bream. Maybe due to some fresh water in the Pat helped the worms to live a little longer. Also tried Catchall Crawlers (good for Sea and fresh water) - wasn't impressed with them either - died quickly. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have mucked around with garden worms. They seem to burst easily & obviously die quickly in saltwater. Have tried salting & brining as well. Not much luck really so gave up on them. Just get salted tubies now. ill go grab a scrubby and salt him up now and see what happen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,841 Posted July 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 Salting now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,841 Posted July 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 On 3/7/2022 at 4:48 PM, doobie said: Interesting, but reckon the straw would get bent out shape quickly or swivel will work loose under pressure a few times. Just have to add the hot glue gun and batter powered hair dryer to heat shrink the indicator to the tackle bag Soaked them over night with no noticeable leaks and just did a test took 6.8kg of pull and the swivel still held - the straw actually snapped in half first doobie 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,841 Posted July 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 17 hours ago, yellow door 1 said: Salting now Bit of shrinkage and they toughened up a bit but I think I’ll stick to fresh and alive Des 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,841 Posted July 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 23 hours ago, doobie said: I have tried garden worms in salt water and was a waste of time - die very quickly and became soggy. Although many years ago I use garden worms in the Patawalonga between the lock and 1st bridge and hooked up Bream. Maybe due to some fresh water in the Pat helped the worms to live a little longer. Also tried Catchall Crawlers (good for Sea and fresh water) - wasn't impressed with them either - died quickly. Yeah I should have dropped 2 worms into water - one in fresh rain water and 1 salt water solution - 35 grams of salt, in a litre of fresh, is supposed to be the right recipe for ocean water. But I got side tracked with the salting process...... The scrubby I dropped into dry salt stopped moving very quick Des, Rybak and doobie 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Des 838 Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 Now to test the salted worm out in the water Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,841 Posted July 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Des said: Now to test the salted worm out in the water will do Des 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,841 Posted July 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 And the float takes about 2.3 gram or 1/12th of an ounce, to get it up right (left a little wiggle room for using with heavy scrub worms) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wert 472 Posted July 6, 2022 Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 11 hours ago, yellow door 1 said: And the float takes about 2.3 gram or 1/12th of an ounce, to get it up right (left a little wiggle room for using with heavy scrub worms) Just thinking you could make the end removable with an internal ballast system, that could be handy and keep you busy for a while. doobie 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,841 Posted July 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 12 hours ago, Wert said: Just thinking you could make the end removable with an internal ballast system, that could be handy and keep you busy for a while. I have made one with internal ballast - so its self cocking - but I havent looked into end caps you can remove before. And suggestions on what those caps should be made from would be welcome Just googled up these silicon inserts which would do it if I could find a diametre match for my straws Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,841 Posted July 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, yellow door 1 said: I have made one with internal ballast - so its self cocking - but I havent looked into end caps you can remove before. And suggestions on what those caps should be made from would be welcome Just googled up these silicon inserts which would do it if I could find a diametre match for my straws I spose I could just fill up a straw with silicone - let it set - then cut it open and use them for plugs. Or cut a point, so a small segment of silicon filled straw can be inserted and act as ballast and a plug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,841 Posted July 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 Job done on the inserts - could not get a snugger fit - thanks for the tip Wert - that opens up a few more doors - went with hot glue for its strength and speed of drying Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,841 Posted July 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 Now also available in “rubber float stop friendly” set up doobie 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,841 Posted July 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 Wert and doobie 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wert 472 Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 Haha, you're unstoppable. I was kind of thinking of a plug with a wire spike you could thread small ball sinkers (or similar "innovative ideas man" invention) onto which would be able to fit internally, be adjustable and keep the weight down low where you want it. When you take the tackle world by storm with this all I ask is for a healthy supply of floats Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,841 Posted July 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Wert said: Haha, you're unstoppable. I was kind of thinking of a plug with a wire spike you could thread small ball sinkers (or similar "innovative ideas man" invention) onto which would be able to fit internally, be adjustable and keep the weight down low where you want it. When you take the tackle world by storm with this all I ask is for a healthy supply of floats Haha Thanks mate - Yeah the one that's self cocking, had 3 split shot embedded into the glue end cap as it dried. I like the idea of self cocking floats. Less chance for tangles. And I looooove the way an unweighted bait drifts slowly to the bottom in still or lightly flowing water. They can also be jerked back to the surface so they slowly fall again which Ive found is good for triggering hits. So they suit my style With the end plugs and a pair of scissors, I can change the buoyancy by cutting the straw a bit shorter - or the more traditional way of adding split shot to the line. So your suggestion of end caps make them a much more versatile float Wert 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,841 Posted July 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 Zero use on big fish - but good for the ones I plan to target with these holders doobie 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Softy 2,991 Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 Bit wobbly? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,841 Posted July 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 4 hours ago, Softy said: Bit wobbly? like a new born giraffes legs I did want some thing sturdier but I had to be able to push them into dirt by hand - so I had to keep them spindly. The only sturdier steel i had would need a hammer and that would send shock waves through the shallow little pond I made them for. I stuffed up some strikes and missed some fish last week due to my unco rod removal from the low to the ground holder - the raised holders were a reaction to that. I used them today and the extra height is great - unfortunately only one eel showed up to annoy me - the lake was teeming with decent reds last week before the rain Softy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doobie 5,802 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 On 08/07/2022 at 5:30 PM, yellow door 1 said: Zero use on big fish - but good for the ones I plan to target with these holders Not as fast as him though .... yet yellow door 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,841 Posted July 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 2 hours ago, doobie said: Not as fast as him though .... yet Much closer than I was though the spot I built them for has a bit of a muddy slope leading to the waters edge so I stand a bit further back. Rushing in and then bending down to get the rod was not the smoothest draw Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,841 Posted August 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2022 I couldnt find my old braid reversing spools the other day so I tried doing it freestyle - what a nightmare that was. So it was straight down to the Hardware the next day to make a new set Soobz and Des 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soobz 559 Posted August 1, 2022 Report Share Posted August 1, 2022 That's pretty much how I do it, though I use a M8x50 machine screw with 2 mudguard washers. I'm curious what "freestyle" was. What I do need to make is a spool holder that keeps light tension. yellow door 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellow door 1 1,841 Posted August 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Soobz said: That's pretty much how I do it, though I use a M8x50 machine screw with 2 mudguard washers. I'm curious what "freestyle" was. What I do need to make is a spool holder that keeps light tension. I use one of these for light tension Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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