KGW on SP? Lures?

[Soobz 557]

Saw Lubin have some luck on KGW with SPs but anyone else have any tips?

[Beau_H 31]

I reckon the Gulp worms would be the go and fishing wise i think it'd  be similar to bait fishing but with more changing of spots/drifting. Also fishing shallower would probably be better because of the visual aspect and being able to fish lighter jigheads. 

[Softy 2,987]

Gulp camo worms or bloodworm will work. I've caught small ones as by catch on bloodworm TRD Crawz on nedrigs before.

[keenfisho 1,416]

Yep, gulp turtlebacks work and as softy said nedrigs work well too

 

[Soobz 557]

The nedrig seems to be the go, but despite research I can't quite see why the nedrig jighead works any different. eg. surely the flat on the nedrig has little effect?

ie. why wouldn't any lighter jig head with smaller hook work exactly the same?

[Kelvin 2,078]

I've got a few small ones on gulp sandworms while chasing bream in westlakes.

[Softy 2,987]

The nedrig seems to be the go, but despite research I can't quite see why the nedrig jighead works any different. eg. surely the flat on the nedrig has little effect?


ie. why wouldn't any lighter jig head with smaller hook work exactly the same?

Different presentation with the nedrig. The head having a flat end makes it stand up on its end where as a normal head the plastic lays flat.

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[vogon 295]

It wasn't a KG but it shows that the Turtleback on a Nedrig works. Now for something bigger

[Territory Lad 1,137]

I bought a handful of TRD Crawz packs and some Ned Rigs for exactly this @Soobz. Essentially the Ned Rig just presents the SP vertically which arguably helps it "waft" in any available current.

There is a specific KGWs on SP podcast on the ALF if your keen. Highlights some tips that may help.

You get some good sized KGWs as bi-catch when targeting Bream in WL, down the Trimmer Parade end. 

[MAH 431]

No tips, but I have bought some SPs, ned rigs and cheb rigs to try this summer for KGW, flatties and YFW. No idea if will work but I'm going to have a go.

The SPs I've bought are TRD Crawz, TRD Ticklerz and TRD Tube.

[Soobz 557]

4 hours ago, Softy said:

Different presentation with the nedrig. The head having a flat end makes it stand up on its end where as a normal head the plastic lays flat.
 

I reckon take the SP off and both are going to lie flat, especially with Nedlockz having weight down the shank, so I suspect it's the SP being slightly buoyant that makes it stand up. Would be curious to see a TRD craw on both jig heads in a glass of water if anyone has both on hand.

At the price and rarity of cockles, something else needs to work

[vogon 295]

Dear science, where the F*** is my hoverboard (apologies to older readers )

Hopefully the pics are clear enough.

LHS Nedrig 1/6 oz, RHS Headlockz 1/8 oz

 

[vogon 295]

1 hour ago, MAH said:

The SPs I've bought are TRD Crawz, TRD Ticklerz and TRD Tube.

Where did you get the last 2, I haven't seen them before?

They look the business

 

[Wert 454]

53 minutes ago, Soobz said:

I reckon take the SP off and both are going to lie flat, especially with Nedlockz having weight down the shank, so I suspect it's the SP being slightly buoyant that makes it stand up. Would be curious to see a TRD craw on both jig heads in a glass of water if anyone has both on hand.

At the price and rarity of cockles, something else needs to work

Bait remains the best option I've found, prawns are a great cockle substitute, I reckon equal to or possibly better than cockles, squid works well and pillies are surprisingly good, especially for bigger 45cm plus models, of the roughly 100 or so KGs I've caught over the last year and a bit about 10 have been 45cm+ honkers and id say about half of those were on pillie meant for other targets.

If this is about saving money forget about it with SPs, leather jackets and puffers often live in the same places as KGs and will decimate your SP stash in no time, catch a squid, lose a few hooks and save $$$.

For sport though as mentioned by many above KGs are actually pretty responsive to SPs of all types, watch baby ones try and take lures in shallow almost as big as they are, but if i was specifically targeting them I'd be chucking small clear prawn style lures or the short 1cm or so bloodworm gulps around any visible sand adjacent reef & corkweed bouncing them back nice and slow.

Good luck, I'm sure we'll hear all about it when you get onto a few.

[yellow door 1 1,759]

We've got them on Gulp 6 inch worms with a stinger hook right in the tail

Heres a vid of a Vic blokes getting them on softplastics.

But fishing with stingers is a pain - tying them out in the field takes ages and you never get the accuracy you can get tying them at home on a jig - especially with gulps as you cant pre rig or they will dry out or rust the hooks

I would pre rig 10 plastic mojiko worms before a session - and just tie on a new fully rigged worm, when a fish ripped one in half - but if you got through 10 in a session at least you got some hits

If the fish are on fire I wouldnt use stingers but when its tough they can be a savior
 

 

[MAH 431]

4 hours ago, vogon said:

Where did you get the last 2, I haven't seen them before?

They look the business

 

Amazon.

We have Amazon Prime for eBooks, video streaming service, etc. As part of the Prime package you can order many products from the overseas stores and not pay postage if the order is $49 and over. Order a few SP and ned rigs and it doesn't take much to get to $49. You can also pick up some of the SPs for a pretty good price. I got the 3 packs $23.37.

[Soobz 557]

I have a hate love relationship with Amazon . Someone at TT needs to explain why ordering 3 packs of Crawz shipped from Canada is more than 20% cheaper than buying in AU.

This is interesting:

Though you need the same slightly buoyant SP mix for nedrig use.

[Soobz 557]

16 hours ago, vogon said:

Hopefully the pics are clear enough.

LHS Nedrig 1/6 oz, RHS Headlockz 1/8 oz

Thanks, very interesting. In some ways the headlockz look more natural like a prawn defending itself.

[SurfcaztR 707]

On 30/11/2021 at 10:17 PM, Soobz said:

Saw Lubin have some luck on KGW with SPs but anyone else have any tips?

I'd get some Zman SP's with a few different colours and jig heads and start chucking them about

[vogon 295]

7 hours ago, Soobz said:

Thanks, very interesting. In some ways the headlockz look more natural like a prawn defending itself.

Maybe, the headlockz one kept rolling over, which it mightn't do with line attached.

I haven't had much success with the Crawz as yet but it is early days. Had more luck with the creaturez & crusteaz