MAH 438 Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 I bought a pack of Savage Gear Manic Creature soft plastics in bloodworm UV. They look a lot like a nipper/bass yabby and I'm going to try them on the metro beaches to see if YFW will take them. I've got a couple of choices to make about rigging them. I could ned rig it. Or I could use a fairly standard sliding sinker YFW rig (which seems to be what Americans call a Carolina rig). If I go with he standard YFW rig, do I use a standard long shank hook and thread it on like I would a live nipper. Or do I use an offset worm hook and a semi-weedless rig with the hook partially exposed. Suggestions welcomed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vogon 295 Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 I like both the Ned rig & the worm hook ideas. I'd probably cut the plastic so that the hook point is closer to the head, that way the YFW or Flattie doesn't need to suck in as much of the bait & should result in more hook ups. Theory only Interested to hear how you go Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keenfisho 1,416 Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 I use some similar plastics on yfw i use both nedrigs and normal plastic jig heads i work them slowly back with puffs in the sand and the yfw love them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aitch.t 18 Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 You tube. There is a video of catching KG whiting with soft plastics by The Full Scale. This has all you need to know. It is a great video shot in Baird Bay using the exact grubs you have got. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MAH 438 Posted December 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 I did a quick test of the buoyancy. Although it floats, it's not enough to get the ned rig to stand up, so I'm going to use the worm hook with a sliding sinker, much like my standard YFW rig when using live nippers. I'm also going to buy a pack of the Zman TRD Crawz in bloodworm to use with the ned rig and try both side by side. I'll report back how I go. Looks like Thursday will be my first chance. Plan is to start in front of the Broadway kiosk and start moving south. Will try and get there at 5.30am for first light, with high tide at 7am. vogon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MAH 438 Posted December 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 Tried the new softy plastic this morning. Not a success, but also not a failure. I'm certainly not BJSlick and fishing the morning tide off the beach for YFW on metro beaches is new to me. I normally fish for YFW in the afternoon on shallow areas with the rising tide flooding over the sand. Metro, my normal patch is Kingston Park, using nippers. I also fish the YP quite a bit for YFW, Moonta Bay between Simms Cove and Rossiters Point, or the sand spit at Black Point. So this is new territory for me. Also, I don't usually use soft plastics, on metro beaches I use nippers and on the YP I use nippers or seaweed worms. My favorite bait are the seaweed worms. I was going to try the Savage Gear Manic Creature rigged on a worm hook and a sliding sinker, plus the Zman Crawz on a ned rig. But I decided to concentrate on one and went with the Savage Gear. The rig was Daiwa Bassers Worm Hook #1 attached to 8lb leader a palomar knot. The leader had a float stop and small bead to stop the sinker from sliding back all the way to the hook. The soft plastic presents really nice on the hook. One problem was the tail would slide back towards the hook mouth and bunch up. I solved this by adding a float stop which helps keep the soft plastic looped over the offset. You can see in the photo a normal hook and one that I added the float stop to. The day wasn't a success because I didn't catch my target species of YFW, but that has more to do with my lack of knowledge about where they would be schooled up. It did however entice a few small STs. So it does catch fish, I just need to try one of my normal patches to see if I can catch YFW with it. Most likely I will wait until the new year and give Kingston Park a go. Then a bit later I'll be trying Black Point. Tomorrow it's the yak in the morning at Brighton for some squid.... maybe I'll take a few soft plastics and drop them over some broken ground. Soobz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TENNANT 29 Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 This clip is interesting, because the point the hooks are facing the head not the tail, this has the fish attacking the lure from the tail end not the claws end. I think a fish would find it a lot easier to swallow a nipper if it took it from the tail end, it would have to be easier to to get down their throat. Soobz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Territory Lad 1,137 Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 Surprised the Nedrig doesn't present those upright. I wouldn't over complicated it, standard SP jig head, if anything maybe cut down the SP and use a smaller hook. Good luck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MAH 438 Posted December 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 hours ago, TENNANT said: I think a fish would find it a lot easier to swallow a nipper if it took it from the tail end, it would have to be easier to to get down their throat. I rigged it like I do for live nippers. With a nipper I always hook the tail first. When a nipper is trying to flee they swim backwards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TENNANT 29 Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 On 23/12/2021 at 8:45 PM, MAH said: I rigged it like I do for live nippers. With a nipper I always hook the tail first. When a nipper is trying to flee they swim backwards. So do prawns and they have spikes on the front so the can not be swallowed head first. And a lot of fish like bream have spikes down their backs that stand up to stop them being eaten from the back, so get eaten head first. Lots of things have their defence facing the end that's going to be attacked. And a lot of other things have worked out to attack the other end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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