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My old man is a head torch aficionado, problem is his hearing isn't what it used to be, fishing at night you try and talk to him and next second he shines the bloody torch in your face, drives me insane.

Thankfully I'll have a hand torch then

Hi yellow door, there are 2 different types of beams some lighs are throwers and some are flooders.What you want is a thrower , it is the way the reflector is designed, a thrower has a deep recessed cone that is designed to punch a high intensity pinpoint beam a long way, with an intense hot spot.Whereas a flooder has a shallow cone that floods a wider area brightly but not as far and direct.Many manufactures give you an option in what sort of light you are after, anything over 5000k is whitish blue or cool white as its known,whereas2700 3000k is your :warm: colour , a more yellowish natura

I actually got into the whole flashlight thing , with the new batteries and led technology. Trust me there is no way that thing has 8000 lumens, The lights with that sort of output only do it for short periods of time on turbo mode because they get too hot and have an automatic shutdown .They step down to a lower brightness.As far as I know there is no headtorch with this out put.Hand held yes.I have one handheld that has a beam range of 1 km and it is only the same size of a coke can If shone in someones face on stobe mode it can cause temporary blindness, they are used for self defen

Haha - trust me, I understand your pain. I would have to be the most considerate head torch user known to man. I always ask for permission from fellow anglers before turning it on and I'm extremely mindful of where the beam is pointing. The guys I fish with are veteran head torch users, so the "rookie errors", alot of people make, do not occur in my circle. I have introduced alot of people to the joys of head torches but after a few years I started giving safety briefings before handing them out. For instance - If I was going camping with a new crew I'd always buy som

Fish with a head torch near me, trust me i want to kill you.

Just got some feed back from a bloke whose been using a similar unit for 5 years without problem I must have been too rough with mine and dislodged the wiring by pulling to hard on the light to get it out of a bag - (the soldering job on the wiring was dodgy though) so If you look after these lights - they could be a real option. not saying there arent better lights out there - just saying these might be a legitimate option based on intended use

Yeah I use my head torch to spot fish at night so they need to be super bright, with a single handed focus-able beam. My main gripe with the Led Lenser I bought is it doesnt focus all the way down to a really tight spot like the old ones used to. I've bought these cheap lights before and I've experienced the problems you mentioned. Thats why I splurged on the Led Lenser. I dont expect the ebay one to last too long but I was just too curious about the 13,000 lumens they offered - and for $20 I am no longer wondering (p.s. I dont think its quite 13.000 lumens)

A good comparison YD1 and naturally we tend to think the more expensive the item is the better it is - but results can show different. For $20 on sale you can't complain with that.