AuusieDave

Where are the groups that want to represent rec fishers? They should be making sure every South Australian knows this and that PIRSA are trashing our economy giving all our resource to commercial fishers for $9/kg when as a rec fishing resource the same resource is worth ten times as much to the economy.

And in the mean time the rec fishing industry can't be bothered defending itself, we can scream until we're blue in the face but we're only hobbyists but if the industry screamed they would have a much better chance of getting some cut through with gov.

Lets keep this on track guys, we're trying to improve representation of rec fishers not war between rec fishing organisations. All this warring is just working against us.

Hi guys, sorry I haven't been able to get back to this, the shit has hit the fan at work and my internet activity at work is now being monitored and I usually only use the internet at work, it's fair enough I guess. Generally I have family commitments until about 9PM each night so it's hard to find time. What I wanted to say is what we really need is a real Rec Fishing Peak Body that represents not just rec fishers but the rec fishing industry (tackle/bait/boat stores, caravan parks/hotels/motels/holiday house owners, regional towns (the pub, bakery, servo, supermarket, coffee shops). Thi

Yes, I'm certain that would be the case, that's why I think it is imperative that that the rec fishing industry is included in anything we do.

Sorry guys, we've had some urgent issues with some of our largest clients this week so I've been flat out all week at work. It looks like you guys have put in some great work there RJ in terms of rec fishing representation for rec fishers. I kind of think we need to be looking at making a real peak body for rec fishing and the rec fishing industry. I believe our position is undermined by the fact that the commercial sector is regarded as more important than rec fishing as they are an industry while we are just hobby fishers exercising our hobby and not really creating any economic va

I think the difference between our viewpoints is that I am commenting on what I believe a rec fishing peak body should be and I understand that you guys are talking about the reality of the current situation and the compromises that you have had to make just to have some skin in the game. These compromises are why I don't think the new Rec Fishing Council will make any difference what-so-ever, the main problem is that RecFishSA is entrapped by PIRSA and PIRSA don't have the best interests of rec fishers as a priority. PIRSA have set up RecFishSA to deliberately be a toothless tiger

Yep, the best fisheries managers in the world.

Here is where I disagree Kon. Unfortunately we have to play the game of politics and we, or especially our representatives, need to exaggerate or case equally to what the MFA are, rec fishers are responsible for overfishing, pffft, lets attack those that take less than 5% of the fish, lets fiddle while Rome burns, this way we can come to a fair compromise, the politicians can save face by giving neither side exactly what they wanted but by giving both sides some of what they wanted. An example of this is the KGW bag limits where the rec survey asked if we were willing to take a cut i

I think you have hit the nail on it's head there Wahoo. It's the secrecy that is bad, why is PIRSA so afraid of the truth if they are 'the best fisheries managers in the world'? What are they trying to hide? Your post sums up everything that is wrong with RecFishSA. What we need is representation and that representation must be public and not behind closed doors. How can they lobby/fight for change in such a secretive arrangement? What we need is representation for rec fishers that is independent of PIRSA, are RecFishSA allowed to publicly lobby against PIRSA? How do they stand up fo

Fair call about jay Rotare, I don't know him and I'm just making an assumption as he uses the same rhetoric as the commercial fishers. Sorry jay Unfortunately as citizens and not businesses we don't have the money to compete in a electoral donations/bribery war with commercial fishers so we need to use people power to force the government to listen to us, the only way to do this is to take to the streets, it's exactly the same as the plight of workers where they can't afford to play the corruption game so need to use democracy and harness people power. It's been reported that the MFA dona

Hi Jay, Do you have any affiliation to any other groups that might have a stake? Your responses seem familiar, like I've heard them before? I tend to agree with you there about jumping the gun, in reality nothing has changed... yet. There's still no representation of rec fishers. If you're so knowledgable about the history of the Marine Parks issue you should also know that SAFA and RecFishCentral were created in response to the betrayal felt from recFishSA at the time. So you agree with robbing the South Australian economy of economic activity as

Hi mrfish, Thanks for your contribution to the discussion. In relation to SAFA's science, they may be misinterpreting some of the data but from what I see PIRSA/RecFishSA just make up the data they want to support what they want, complete privatisation of the public resource that is our salt-water fishery. I assume you agree that PIRSA/RecFishSA's science is equally if not more flawed. See I would have said that reducing the rec bag limits while increasing the commercial take for a species would be demonstrating a massive lack of ecological understanding, surely you agr

Hi Jay, I notice that you seem to be very anti SAFA/RecFishCentral, is this because you are happy with the status quo? I'm assuming as this is a rec fishing site that you are here as a rec fisher, do you believe RecFishSA has and is doing a good job of representing rec fishers? Were you happy with RecFishSA's representation in the following issues; Marine Parks. Blue Swimmer Crab bag limits. Blue Swimmer Crab commercial season opening at the beginning of December just to make sure there was no metro crabs left by Christmas for recs. KGW bag and possession

Yeah, RecfishSA had the discussion on licenses a couple of weeks ago on facebook and the outcome was that it was a good idea for freshwater but a bad idea for salt water as there is no intentions to stock salt water species, buy back used licenses (it's pointless to buy back latent licenses as they are not utilised), introduce TACCs or for PIRSA to do anything to change their established practice of continually taking from the recs to give to the pros (i.e. the SBT issue at the moment, KGW, Blue Swimmer Crabs). I think the SBT issue shows that we are likely to be worse off than we were be

I think all is not what was expected, the new Rec Fishing Rep needs to be approved by PIRSA to ensure they will just rubber stamp whatever PIRSA wants and the SBT issue will show the way the new government will handle rec fishing issues. I hope I'm wrong but at the moment it seems we have jumped from the fat into the fire, come on Tim, prove me wrong. Dave

A few of the Victorian guys that I meet up with at Portland chasing SBT's often go to Lake Mullen-Berri and get stuck into those Chinook Salmon, they reckon they are great fun to catch and give them something worthwhile to chase on the way home when there's no SBT.

I haven't tried much this year but I've got a few for liveys mainly around the Port River estuary in various places, I did get some good sized ones a few months ago coming past the Outer Harbour seal colony, one was big enough to break the hook on my double clutch and get away.

I bought one at SportsFishingScene a few weeks ago and they had most colours.

Well done Kuerschie, that's a bumper year so far. For me it's more just targets, this year I got my yak XOS snapper and last year a yak SBT but I'm still chasing that kingfish, metre mully and 30kg SBT, must all be yak caught to. I've been held back the last couple of months with a dodgy shoulder, the doctor suggested it might be bursitis and sent me for scans, it'd be great to get it sorted so I can start enjoying my fishing again. Dave

Good luck in the new job Southie. It's a shame we need to chose between a job we love doing and a job that will pay all the bills but that's life. It'll give you your weekends though and allow you to fish more which is a very good thing.

Hi Marten, I have two set ups for these fish, for casting plastics/jigs I have a 7 foot 8-12kg rod with a Penn Slammer (560 I think) and for trolling I have a 6 foot Triton Beastmaster 8-12kg rod and a TLD 20. On a kayak I think a 8-12kg rod is heaps, I'm not sure I'd even be likely to put that much pressure on a fish. The guys at Sportfishing Scene will be able to help you out, they are a great bunch of guys with heaps of knowledge to share. I buy all my gear there. Dave

According to the policy above, no, RecfishSA are to be part of the new body. "We will establish a new body for recreational fishers, including representatives of Recfish SA, ...." Just to make sure we're talking the truth not assumptions.

Wow, that's so organised Kelvin, I feel bad about my pile of gear on my dining table now.

Looks like a great plan SnapperHead, I reckon they'll work a treat, I've heard about some yakkers successfully doing the same thing for snapper and mullies. That's one of my favourite fishing shows too mate, snapper, kingfish, kingfish, snapper, all great species to target. Dave