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19 hours ago, lofty64 said:

I was out one evening ,and the fishing was a bit slow ,so I said to my son lets get into some chicken wings which I had cooked the day earlier , so munging on these yummy wings and chucking all bits into the water , and this is all while I was chucking out a steady stream of berley , and then we had a good bite , and ended up with 6 nice snapps before it became to rough , once home ,and unloaded and started cleaning the snapps ,the biggest one had 6 chicken wing bits in its guts , true garbage eaters ….when they are on the chew .

Yeah when you burley them up into a frenzy - its chomp first and ask questions later

2 hours ago, Savage said:

This video is out of Victoria!

It makes me sick to know that in Victoria, arguably the 2 most desired / targeted species in snapper and KGW, have a legal limit of 27cm at 28cm!!!!

I dont understand how you could get that excited over a 28cm pinky. A 33cm whiting will fight harder than a 28cm pinky but anyway.

I have no doubt you will catch them on Carp flesh.

As others have said above, if snapper are hungry, they will eat anything

I'm no snapper expert but have caught them on all sorts of baits; Silver whiting, tommies, KGW frames, mackeral, yacs, squid, pilchards, garfish. 

My dad is old school and his side of the boat will always be baited. i have invested in some decent tackle and on my side I use soft plastics (Zmans or gulps).

I jig and reel at times but alot of the times it's sitting in the rod holder and the waves do the rest while i tie new rigs and hooks.

In the past 4 years i can honestly say it'll be a 1:5 ratio for us. If we catch a snapper (which isn't every outing i might add), majority of the time the soft plastics will win. Only that 1 time we will catch on bait.

I might also add that the 'dropped fish' rate is also quite alarming. The soft plastics rarely foul hook or drop a fish with only 3 fish lost in 7 seasons (1 wind against tide and lost the fish at the surface due to getting hooked to the anchor rope, 1 being bit through the leader and 1 i managed to get it half way up and lost. 

Apologies if i may have hi-jacked the carp thread, just looking at it from another perspective and to knock the Victorians 

great story - lots of good info there. Have you ever used carp for bait or burley?

3 hours ago, bjorn2fish said:

Tried to fix the links above and it appears that YouTube is actually down at the moment.

Thanks for that - the links are working at my end at the moment

3 hours ago, Underpants said:

At one stage i thought it would be a good idea to try putting carp thru my mulcher to make burley 

Unfortunately it wasn't the smartest idea to drop an entire 64cm carp in whole as it  jammed up the mechanism!

After disassembling the screen and pulling it back out, reassembling it all went thru fine AFTER i cut it in quarters with a spade!

Did produce a nice bloody burley.

Chucked a wheelbarrow load of dry prunings thru afterwards cleaned it nicely, followed by a bit of WD40.

Ha Ha - yeah I was impressed by the rich red chunks

7 hours ago, mrfish said:

Carp is great, stays on the hook really well too. Killer on bream and salmon

Yeah thats one of the things I love about- when the little snapper and flatties are tearing pilchards to shreds - you know those carp fillets will survive the onslaught

13 hours ago, Dylbaa said:

I just use it in the crab nets, maybe you're onto something here! 

Yeah I wouldnt recommend leaving all other baits at home - but it might be worth sneaking a bit of carp out on one of your rods

18 hours ago, Del said:

i caught salmon, tommies, flat head, small snapper, and sting rays so far on it.. 

Do you salt it down or use it fresh/frozen

18 hours ago, AquaticResearch1 said:

Used it on slimy mackerel, tommies, salmon, bream, far and potentially more. Worked on all of them.

Yeah if that variety of species dont mind chewing on it - theres got to be others

22 hours ago, blanikman said:

Wow I’m sold!


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Yeah its a bit early for me to give it my full endorsement - but its worth a crack.

5 hours ago, rotare said:

Not surprising.  Get on a hot snapper bite and they'll eat anything.  We've found all manner of things in the stomachs of snapper when filleting them - leather jackets, mussel shells, sea horses, stones and gravel..... so they probably aren't as fussy as some people might think if they're hungry.

Yeah the second video was shot on a very slow bight - we had squid, pilchard, red mullet, silver whiting, a king george whiting head and salted carp out.

The only 2 baits that got eaten were the king george whiting head and the salted carp.

Re snapper eating anything when they are hungry - you got that right

The question of carp as bait or burley came up in the thread about Snapper fishing lessons.

So I figured I'd ask around - who's used it? and what do you reckon?

I'm at the stage where I dont leave home with out it when chasing snapper - but I havent given it a long enough trial to see if its as good as I hope it is

Here's some of Vids of the first couple of trials

First time I took it out on a mates boat he was like - "You are not bringing that stinky crap on my boat"

second time it was "Ok it doesnt stink and the pinks like it"

Third time I caught  him sneaking a couple of pieces on to his hooks instead of Pilchard 

14 hours ago, AquaticResearch1 said:

How much salt you use mate? I've only used it fresh or briefly frozen. 

First things first - I'm no pro at this but heres how I do it

I use 1kg of supermarket salt on the fillets from a 5kg carp - I cut mine up into 3cm x 5cm x 1.5cm chunks.  The chunks are put in a snap loc bag with the salt. Then I shake the bag until everthing is evenly coated. It usually takes a day or 2 for the majority of the water to be sucked out of the chunks. I hang my snap loc bags upside down - with a slight crack in the seal - so the water can run out and the flies cant get in.

I've thought about collecting the juice for burley but never done it.

Guys who are serious about salting bigger volumes of bait buy a 20kg sacks of pool salt from the hardware store for about $7 and use 20l buckets with a bung to drain out the liquid.

 

Re the fishing lessons - I've never done it, but I wish I had back in the day - there is nothing more valuable than experience in hard fished areas - going out with a pro could save you 20 years of mistakes and dud trips.
If you dont have the time to get out there everyday and work it all out - being guided by someone who knows what they are doing, is the best money you can spend to improve your catch.  You just have to find the right guide.


 

On 10/12/2018 at 10:29 PM, AquaticResearch1 said:

Can't help much with snapper, but the carp idea is good. They are great bait and really oily, good cheap burley that  I'm going to get into eventually if I have adequate freezer space 

I've only done a couple of tests with carp versus pilchards as bait - and it performs well by comparison on little fish.

I salt mine down so they last the season and use smallish chunks on flasher rigs - beats playing mushy pilchard roulette with the frozen baits.

Heres one I cut up last week - it would be great fresh but I need mine to last, so it has to be salted.

It lasts forever and can be refrozen multiple times - some blokes dont even keep it in the fridge and say it lasts for a couple of months

Most of my materials come from curb side rubbish collection piles - so there is no shortage of old mops to choose from.

And yeah - improvised tool use is one of my specialties - Just yesterday I was faced with getting some huge sturdy card boxes into the bin - the stanley knife was breaking my balls - Cordless Jigsaw made short work of it

ahh and you'll need a pvc pipe sheath for the points, so you only stab things that you intend to stab

Cut out the shape you want with a dremel or angle grinder - then blast with the heat gun until it gets floppy - then shape with gloved hands - hold it in place and run cold water over it to set quick and you're done

First make a piece of junk out of a metal mop handle to see the limitations of such a beast.

Then beef everything up - drill holes into heavy curtain rod - cut steel rod in half and hammer into pole - add hose clamps - sharpen the tips - and you're ready to put holes into some flounder

A flounder guru set me straight and said you need a heavy pole and long tines. The heavy pole makes penetration a breeze especially on boney headed flathead - and no barbs makes getting them off the spear too easy

Its good for even, predictable, cooking times and very little wasted flesh.



 

Yeah would be a piece of piss - as long as the tubing your gaff is attached to slips snuggly into or over the top of the extension pole - you're in business.

I dont use gaffs where I fish because I intend to release the big fellas I catch - and the spots I land fish are pretty forgiving to the use of nets - Ie  - they arent going to get tangled in kelp, mussel or craggy rocks

The double button springs are fine for what I do - I mainly fish man-made structures with easy netting opportunities - but there might be complications with the buttons being depressed if you were dragging them through and over rocks.

I havent found 2 grown men who can pull apart the button mechanism on my poles but dragging them up a rock face might accidentally trip the mechanism - I doubt it- but its something to consider

The Land based game marlin gaffs, they use off rock ledges, have screw in attachments and 2mm thick aluminum tubing.  Where as mine has buttons and 1,2mm wall thickness tubing. So mine is built for the little fellas I tangle with

The weakest part of my set up is the net frame.
 

order parts from tent supply store

measure up

chuck in rivets and double button chair springs

Spray with enamel to stop black hands

and you're done

Sorry to dredge up the past but I was wondering how the Dam was going now. I'd love to hear an update on how it all went.