Hi ,bjorn2 fish. Thankyou so much for the info I asked for . It is greatly appreciated. I think I will have to refine my technique a little.At 72 y.o.a. I am still learning. The trouties must have been in a real feeding frenzy . Using the heads as a last resort brought to mind , I spent my 21st Birthday on the Henley Jetty with my girlfriend ,and we were using Cray-tail meat for bait and the Tommies [sorry Herrings] were going ballistic,ran out of bait,so we scraped the hooks on the shell, and were still catching fish. Caught a Taxi home about 1am, gave the Taxi driver a feed , he was a happy