@ just me....that is a pretty arrogant and simplistic view of land based fishos......... in la la land imo.im land based and i wouldnt fish stanvac, just like i dont fish any metro jetty anymore - why cos they are packed and its a nightmare and i could image the 100 ppl fishing shoulder to shoulder. There are plenty of other good landbased spots out there........ just look at piratepom or des's posts, as well as a few that hunt around WL the port the onk and some nice rocks or beaches.On stanvac being just C & R would imo see stanvac become as a fish cemetary - the boaties would love it -