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Pussy_Willow

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  1. The tommies will be on tap off the jetty in the evenings as many as you want you can see them. If you're lucky you will also get trevalley and the odd KG on cockles if the tommies don't get to them first. As for boat fishing you don't need to be far off shore for the KGs. We brought the tinny there a couple of years ago and were catching them not 100m off shore. No GPS just looking for the sand patches amongst the weed. You can also get some monster gar there at certain times of the year. good luck.

  2. Why are these people even listened to! They should be dismissed as freaks and routinely ignored in the future. Looks like Sea world has taken this approach good on em. I wonder when they will start complaining about all the hot dogs and burgers sold at the royal show with all of the pig and cattle competitions there and all.

  3. This review examines the neurobehavioral nature of fishes and addresses thequestion of whether fishes are capable of experiencing pain and suffering.

    Pain and suffering could be defined as 2 completely different experiences. Maybe thats why there is debate because there isn't a precise definition of pain. I would describe pain as the sensation perceived through the nervous system due to irritating or injurous stimuli. I would describe suffering as the mental/emotional torment resulting from such pain.Proposed experiment:Hypothesis: Fish feel pain.Method: Have 2 electric hotplates covered with bottomless soup pots the base of which entirely comprises of the hotplate. Keep one off as the control and keep one on as the treatment. Put a healthy live fish in each and measure the duration and intensity of the physical response. Use replicates and do this mulitple times with the same fish species.Predicted result: The fish put on the hot hotplate reacted more violently than the control.Predicted discussion: Fish feel pain. They may not feel it exactly like we do but they feel it.
  4. Fish feel pain they possess the nerve endings which send impulses to their brain which they sense. The more damaging the stimuli the more frequent the impulses to the brain are and the more unpleasant it is for the fish. This pathway is not an untested theory it is how it actually works. Fish can see they have eyes, fish can smell they have noses, fish can feel pain they have a central nervous system with a sense of touch. What is in qusetion is do fish process this pain stimulus intellectually and emotionally in the same way as higher organisms (like humans) do? Given their small brains and what limited and conflicting studies have been conducted probably not.I don't gut fish live, impale a tommie onto a squid jig live, throw noxious carp onto the campfire or play cricket with them and leave fish to suffocate in a dry bucket all because it would cause them pain as registered through their nervous system, their interface with the world around them.If for some warped reason I did and the fish happened to survive, the fish would not cry, develop PTSD, develop antisocial or violent behaviour or be emotionally tormented by the mere memory of its experience unlike people, dogs, apes and elephants.on a different note cockroaches do have a nervous system, quite primitive and relatively decentrallised but a nervous system none the less.a more interesting question (but rather pointless) is do jellyfish and corals (both animals)feel pain? they have no nervous system!

  5. Of course fish feel pain! They are a vertebrate species with a spinal chord, nerve endings and respond to stimuli and all that. I think the initial study mentioned is saying that fish brains aren't developed enough to experience the emotional stress and trauma that higher animals like mammals (including us)experience when we are hurt.Oh yeah and that "Daddy kills" leaflet has been around for a long time. I had a really good laugh when I first read it! :laugh:

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