Wow so many different opinions lol =) I also posted this on fishsa but got alot less responses, but did how ever read that some ones shimano Tekota (sp) fell to bits after 18 months.... i have also heard the Abu 7000 is not made in sweeden anymore and to steer clear of the taiwan newer version. I am after an overhead as i want to get familiar with them as far as beach fishing goes i have a daiwa reel for that already and hardly go beach fishing yet. Hmmmm decisions decisions :S