I have a couple of the 12 footers (1202MHFS & 1202HFS) for threadlines.First thing I noticed is the guides or lack of guides. I had trouble casting them with any side wind as the braid would end up wrapping around the tip.So I got them rebuilt with Fuji low riders and they are now my weapons of choice whenever I hit the beach.From memory I got them (3 in total) for $235 each incl postage, but did have some issues with time and even a broken rod from the courier. But I ended up getting a new one sent out free of charge.