Mickyj

Two pound mono lol I'd love to try that .Way to light to start with.start with a 4lb mono and 8lb mono .I use double surgeon knots to join mono to mono and Flyline.Backing I use a knail knot to mono.Will try and get out tomorrow at the lake say hi if you see me.

Watch out guys, brenton is a natural as I kept telling him last night. {SMILIES_PATH}/grin.gif (at work)I didn't want to overload him with the do's and dont's of casting, just gave him the very basics to have a try. And he did quite well first time with a fly rod.His coffee cup was the target, and he was on the mark in a very short time. (half hour lunch break) Well done mate!He was using my first outfit, a #7 weight with some flouro fluff on the end..Has to work his way up to use 'my baby' sorry {SMILIES_PATH}/tongue.gif

And you have started him off on Fluro fluff well done ray Next he will be wanting fluro green flies {SMILIES_PATH}/wink.gifBy the way that green nail polish is hard to come by.

In my defense ;)MJ, u been at it for a few years now mate, think back to your first casts, I can still remember your initial 50 posts Rememeber the difficulties u had, {SMILIES_PATH}/rolleyes.gifFN, Reddies ( redfin ) {SMILIES_PATH}/grin.gif love big bulky flies, Ive caught em on tiny nymphs but reddies and bream for that matter love big baitfish flies. I concur that a 6# is a great place to start for trout. My prefered outfit for stream fishing for trout is my 3#. However there is a world of difference between fishing the fresh for trout and fishing the salt for bream and other salty prey. Your bream rod should be able to double for a salmon rod, should a school be going past and u wanna through some decent flies at em, especially for a beginner, no better fish to cut ya teeth on than the Aussie salmon. :DStill reckon if you are gonna fish the salt predominantly and 8# would be an easier place to start. If you intend to fish the fresh than a 6# may be a better option for you. Then again you could do what I did and split the difference and buy a 7# for ya first outfit :-[

I wasn't having ago at you Nick .You got me hooked on Salmon {SMILIES_PATH}/shocked.gifYou know there is a great dvd/video on casting helped me out greatly can not think of its name american from the 80's i think . 50 posts is about right to nick.mind you I have learnt my lesson also about trying to catch Bream that are watching you and eating burley lol.Trout as you know I know nothing except they are ferals (that will get me some trouble lol). But I have done a hell of a lot of reading on FF all forms of.And despite the fact that the big buggers have broken me off I love my 6 weight.BUT there is some talk on another Fly fishing forum we both haunt Nick that has a section called Micro Fly fishing and they would call 6 weight heavy.Some of those guys are mad Tarpon on a 3weight i think in singapore.Anyway its really up to the individual .Did once talk to a fly tackle rep who did say to me learn on a 6 weight and go up from there.Now I have had my say the next time we meet I will be skiing behind a huge Mulloway holding onto my 6 weight.Cheershave a good one nick {SMILIES_PATH}/wink.gif

I had my first play with Tonkas fly set-up last night,i think it was a 7#,it wasn't easy but i reckon as a novice i could of cast well enough to catch a fish....if i was casting into the water that is. {SMILIES_PATH}/grin.gif cheers brenton

Just to stick my nose in to the great mans fly outfit its a 6 {SMILIES_PATH}/grin.gif

Love those flies fishnuts, awsome {SMILIES_PATH}/grin.gifHave to disagree with ya about the 6# but :-[i reckon a 6# would be far tooo hard for a begginner to cast many of the bream flies. Once connected no worries u could land a 15 lb mullie on a 6#. But trying to cast some of those heavier baitfish patterns would be near impossible, especially land based or with a bit of wind. I would go as far as saying an 8# would be a far better option for a beginner. Way easier to cast way more forgiving. ;D Chasing those reddies or larger salmon with a clouser or deceiver would also be no prob for an 8# but near impossible for a novice with a 6# My two cents ;D

Hey There big nick .I seem to think back to being out on your boat I had no worries casting your 8weight or my 6 weight .And I had caught less fish back then .And thanks for the addiction to Salmon trout just can never get enough of them {SMILIES_PATH}/grin.gif You are very correct with your heavier flies and wind no way in the world.But that is the fun of learning .You learn what you can not cast and what you can.and buying flies for those that can not tie you learn what works and what doesn't.Something I learn't when I started WADING .It doesn't matter which way the wind blows if you can turn your back to it {SMILIES_PATH}/wink.gifThere were days with a HOT 18 to 20 knot NW wind blowing I caught BREAM.The next day it was a cool 20knots to the south I caught fish. As long as the wind is at your back or over a shoulder you can catch fish.Wind is not our friend as a fly guy unless you can use it to your advantage!!IMHO in FLY FISHING 2 RULES 1 have fun if it ain't fun go home!!2 Its not all about the fish you catch but that you learn something and enjoy the view.There is a third rule I should have followed two weeks ago which is .When Wading in Saltwater do not wade in a baitfishers burley trail .As big fish with perhaps teeth may bang into your wading boots {SMILIES_PATH}/grin.gifCheersJust my thoughtsPSIf you can cast a 6weight you will be able to cast an 8 weight.

I changed from floating to a full sinking line last winter .Would have been nice if I had bought my waders last winter as well {SMILIES_PATH}/rolleyes.gifI am hoping this winter to have a much better run at getting into the Salmon that haunt the lake.Have already caught a few Salmon Trout so far this year.Bream over winter are few and far between for me in the past.

Speaking of TACKLE WORLD what happened to the one in Pt Adelaide? they didnt have fly gear but i used to buy 1 thing from them .

Mickyj, try this link to another post re Port Adelaide. http://strikehook.com/index.php?option= ... opic=649.0

Cheers thanks for that

Speaking of TACKLE WORLD what happened to the one in Pt Adelaide? they didnt have fly gear but i used to buy 1 thing from them .

Small hint guy's, starts with L, ends in Y sounds like royalty.Still struggling??? Try LOYALTY or lack of it.Last I heard Koonta was still trying to get propellor advise from Bunnings, where he happened to save $20 bucks on a bit of wood & Simsmetal for a bit of Aluminum, wonder if they could help him with his boats sagging bum? Too bad his local Hardware closed waiting. I bet he could have matched those prices if asked. You will see many more stores close in the coming months, increased costs of operation (wages, electricity, rent etc), massive increases in freight charged to stores, substantial price increases of product mainly due to raw material costs escalating (most stores have been absorbing these rises to keep prices down).Most tackle store owners currently work 60-80 hours a week & in most cases for less than the average wage, WOULD YOU? How current is your store owners vehicle? Interstate the rollout of over 40 BCF stores (owned by Supercheap) throughout most eastern & western states has taken it's toll, but in most cases the stores affected were on their dying legs anyway.Obviously other issues such as interest rates with Sydney's average home loan of over 400k & QLD weather patterns this year will factor in the big picture.It is unlikely Adelaide will see these guy's for a bit yet as the market is so tiny & more competitive than anywhere in the country, the expected impact will be about the same as the opening of Ray's, Anaconda, Amart etc. NIL.Finatic

I did respond to this earlier but removed my response as it was inappropriate .Not going to say what I said before .How can you say loyalty to a fly fisherman in Adelaide there is hardly anyone who handles the stuff.well most stores do but they don't know alot about the products .Way back when i wanted to put line on my then NEW fly reel (it was a gift),I entered one shop(not the one I mentioned in the removed post) .First he said the price was $120 .He could see I was shaken with the price silly me thinking fly gear was not that dear {SMILIES_PATH}/embarrassed.gif.He went from $120 to $65 in one breath .still I didnt have that much money on me .Short time latter(well a couple of months) on Ebay flyline looked the same as I was offered Sinking etc $19.95 delievered .Now I was ripped off on postage as i was charged $5 and it was around $1 on the stamp .This came from an Ebay shop in Adelaide !!How can you be loyal to a shop that says $120 then drops to $65.I was in retail/wholesale for a very long time no way you drop your price like he did that fast.And you end up buying it for under 20 bucks .Now I am not silly enough to think its the same quality but its been used to catch a fair few fish.Done the job I wanted it to do.You mentioned Rays in the above post .I was looking for Waders local tackle stores wanted from $56 to $ 60 bucks for the PVC ones.Walked into Rays great outdoors the same Waders $50 bucks the money I saved went straight into replacing my aged mono lines .To someone who is on or very nearly below the average wage every cent counts and if i can stretch the dollar further i will.And to quote house prices I think you need to check the real estate guide for Adelaide .Because your average prices for interstate are below what units in new port quays are going for.not to mention in areas closer to Adelaide .I know of units built and sold for around $400K facing a run down bank of the river Torrens .A year latter being sold for $550k or there abouts .And loyalty is a funny thing goes both ways .CheersHave a good one guys

Crab man,Get yourself a nicely balanced 6wt outfit. It doesn't have to cost you a fortune but as with everything the better the quality the more you will pay. I have some really expensive flyrods in all different wieghts and the one I enjoy using the most is an old Silstar flyrod that I've just given a rebuild that I use out of the yak for bream e.t.c. You don't have to spend heaps until you work out whether or not you enjoy flyfishing. One thing I would advise you is , a cheap line is always a cheap line and will mostly cast and behave like a cheap line. Buy yourself a good intermediate line and you will have most bases covered to start you off. Work out what you want to spend then let us know and we may be able to advise you on some half decent gear. Hope this helps.Cheers Darren

Darren knows more than me and IMHO he is correct a 6 weight is all you really need in places like west lakes .But you will still get broken off from time to time {SMILIES_PATH}/rolleyes.gif not looking in the mirror at any one {SMILIES_PATH}/grin.gifSalmon Trout on a 6 weight fly with bait fish busting the surface and banging into your legs. And the ST'S grabbing your fly off the surface before it can sink .Nothing like it a great rush .Then the big fish grab your fly and your mono breaks {SMILIES_PATH}/embarrassed.gifI am sorry I can not put it any better in the written word.Just something you need to try.Cheers

Many years ago when I was a bait fisherman .I went fishing with my wives brother in law.We headed to torrens island for no luck .Went to the Torrens island market ate a burger (back when I could do that).This was when you could still fish at the market .some smart guy was throwing bananas in the water.No joke the fish came on the bite thick and fast for everyone fishing there.when the bananas sank they'd go quiet until he threw more in and it would start again.

I can tell you Brenton the Bream eased up on my "green rubber band baitfish " flies when the weather changed.You know when it went from 40 something down to 18 the bream went quiet.

I didn't mean to start a fight here just posted it as I thought it would interest everyone.So is everyone going to use LURES and FLIES now {SMILIES_PATH}/grin.gif

I've already started buying every bream lure there is, and in every colour too {SMILIES_PATH}/rolleyes.gifSo Yak, the Bottom line is......Use a SMALL amount on your hook, and a LITTLE amount through your burley, and everyone is happy

Perhaps you should move onto fly fishing for Bream Harder and lots of frustration oops I mean fun {SMILIES_PATH}/grin.gif

hey all. i want to get a fly combo but not sure what tog et so if anyone has any suggestions or any for sale that would be great. thanks C_MAN {SMILIES_PATH}/cool.gif {SMILIES_PATH}/grin.gif {SMILIES_PATH}/cheesy.gif

Crab man a bit more info might help like what you will be fishing for like Trout ,Bream,Mulloway Murray Cod.

Thank you for putting in a fly section guys .Just my luck I can't fish this weekendHeres a few recent catches and sorry to anyone who has seen these before.And the Salmon trout has a funny mark under the fin.Fishnuts and Highfly catch bigger fish than me {SMILIES_PATH}/grin.gif

I didn't mean to start a fight here just posted it as I thought it would interest everyone.So is everyone going to use LURES and FLIES now {SMILIES_PATH}/grin.gif

Just got this emailIssue 13, April 2008 www.pir.sa.gov.au/fishing Articles Berley update Size matters Kingston men to face charges Onkaparinga fish kill result of hot spell Aquatic reserve maps available online Weather to fish or not to fish? More aquatic reserve news Pipi fishery goes to quota Berley update The law covering the use of berley has been part of fisheries legislation since 1985 and was introduced to restrict the use of berley specifically designed to attract sharks, especially where it has the potential to endanger the lives of swimmers and divers in the same area. The legislation, controlling the use of blood, bone, meat, offal or skin of an animal as berley, was varied slightly in December 2007 with the addition of the words ?or bird? to part (2) of Section 23 of the Fisheries Management (General) Regulations 2007. This addition prevents the use of birds (in particular chicken carcasses or frames) as berley. Fishers can only use fish-related products like fish frames, heads, pieces, including squid and cuttlefish as berley. Fishers can not use chicken necks, carcasses (or pieces), meat products such as ox heart, old chops, dog bones, roo tails etc. This includes use in crab nets (both single ring hoop and double ring drop nets). The use of small amounts of meat for berley or bait when targeting fish such as mullet remains unchanged. It is considered unlikely that the small amounts of meat used in this way will have significant attractant properties. Fisheries Officers will use their discretion in weighing up the circumstances of its use. A fact sheet addressing some of the more frequently asked questions regarding the use of berley can be found on the PIRSA Fisheries web site. top Kingston men to face charges Two men from Kingston, on the state?s Limestone Coast, are expected to face a range of fisheries related charges following a targeted operation involving PIRSA Fisheries and SAPOL officers. It will be alleged that the two men aged 69 and 67 used nine rock lobster pots every day over a six day period as well as using rock lobster pots not registered in their names. The maximum number of registered pots that can be used by an individual is two. Search warrants were executed at two premises at Kingston where Fisheries Officers seized approximately 60 rock lobsters (both whole and shelled meat) with a total weight of approximately 90 kilograms. Officers also seized two vessels, chest freezers, cooking equipment and a number of lobster pots. Under the Fisheries Management Act 2007, penalties for a first offence of this nature can include a fine of $10,000 and an additional penalty of five times the wholesale value of the fish up to a maximum of $100,000. For more information on the rules that apply to rock lobster fishing, go to the recreational fishing pages of the PIRSA Fisheries web site. top Aquatic reserve maps available online Aquatic reserves are established for reasons including protecting important fish breeding and nursery areas. Detailed maps of the State?s aquatic reserves including the recently proclaimed Coobowie Aquatic Reserve have now been posted on the aquatic reserves page of the PIRSA Fisheries web site. The files are in PDF format so they can be easily saved to the hard drive of a computer or printed out for future reference. All of the GPS coordinates have been updated and are shown in degrees, decimal minutes using GDA 94 which coincides almost exactly with WGS84. top More aquatic reserve news PIRSA Fisheries is in the process of designing a template for the development of Management Plans for South Australias aquatic reserves. Aquatic reserves are declared under the Fisheries Management Act and have a different purpose from Marine Parks. Aquatic reserves are established to protect important fish habitat, while the new proposed Marine Reserves are to meet general biodiversity conservation outcomes. The aquatic reserve template will be used to develop individual management plans for each reserve, which in turn will guide the government and community in protecting these important fish habitat areas. Fishers and the broader community will have the opportunity to comment on these plansas they are developed. top Size matters Size, bag and boat limits are an important part of everyday fishing. But have you ever caught a fish and not been sure what the size limit is or how many you can keep? Well, the answer is now just a phone call away. Callers to the PIRSA Fishwatch telephone hotline can get the latest information about fishing regulations 24 hours a day, seven days a week. All calls to the hotline are answered by a trained operator who can ensure you get the correct information about fisheries rules and avoid any awkward moments should your catch be checked by a fisheries officer. The Fishwatch phone number is 1800 065 522. top Onkaparinga fish kill result of hot spell A recent fish kill in the upper reaches of the Onkaparinga River at Old Noarlunga was probably the result of a combination of factors including Adelaide?s recent run of high temperatures according to PIRSA Fisheries. The swing bridge at Old Noarlunga effectively marks the upper extent of tidal movement into the estuary and normally water moves into the billabong on the top of the tide. A combination of lack of tidal flow into the billabong combined with a run of hot weather resulted in the depletion of oxygen levels in the river, causing a number of fish to die. A change in weather patterns has reduced the likelihood of any similar events, however members of the public are warned not to handle or collect any dead or dying fish. Officers from PIRSA Fisheries investigated the fish kill following a report by a member of the public to the 24 hour Fishwatch hotline (1800 065 522). top Weather to fish or not to fish? Weather and fishing go hand in hand. So it should come as no surprise that PIRSA Fisheries and Adelaide?s top rating news service, SAS Channel 7, should join forces to keep fishers up to date with the latest fishing news. Since 2005, PIRSA Fisheries has forwarded tips and information relating to recreational fishing issues and hotspots to Channel 7 on a weekly basis. These are compiled from information gathered from the PIRSA Fisheries network of Fisheries Officers and Fishcare Volunteers. The tips, along with the latest fishing hot spots provided to Channel 7, are then condensed and presented to viewers every Thursday night by popular journalist and weather presenter Melody Horrill. To get the latest tips and information about recreational fishing in SA, make sure you tune in to the Channel 7 News every Thursday night. Fishers will soon be able to also access the fishing tips via the PIRSA Fisheries web site. top Pipi fishery goes to quota The State?s commercial pipi fishery will now be regulated by quota in an effort to ensure its long-term sustainability. The quota management system for pipis (formerly known as Goolwa cockles) has been developed and was implemented in the commercial Lakes and Coorong Fishery in December 2007. 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4 sure there were Bronzies put in there by Grange anglers, Probably been mostly caught by now, well hopefuly anyhow!

Yak did they put them in before or after they flushed the lake with freshwater ?Having said that I saw a freshwater turtle swimming and then getting out of the lake last year .didnt take a pic I am afriad.

Like i say Green is a colour Bream like {SMILIES_PATH}/grin.gif

Found a photo of Alan and his Bronzie he got in West Lake {SMILIES_PATH}/grin.gif

Makes me wonder what was hitting my leg friday {SMILIES_PATH}/grin.gif

Depends what ya throw at them what time of day and tide I had my first fish in weeks and did quite well and threw lures I didnt mind loosing so I dont have to replace them before the comp. People also expect to go to the same spot where they have caught them before and expect them to be there every time. They have tales and fins...... They swim and move....

Plus unlike the above tiddler NORMALLY the ones you see can also see you and don't take a bait or lure.BUT in that spot I watched a young chap land a couple of 40cm perhaps plus BREAM using dough.

Hey Wilma can I ask what the fish on the double header were ?Women /girls always out fish us guys .Some of us change to Salt water fly fishing so they lose interest {SMILIES_PATH}/grin.gif {SMILIES_PATH}/grin.gif (well not the real reason ).

IMHO Its heading to that time of the year where its harder to catch Bream on artifical baits like flies and lures.This was the last fish I landed,and all I did was drop the fly amongst a school of fish from above!!

Just wanted to see the different things people had caught out of west lakes on lures and bait.. {SMILIES_PATH}/grin.gifHeres a few of my recent pics..

Well done Luke I have been wondering about flathead in the lake . Then I scared one hell of a large one when walking along the footpath. Had a small one like you have caught try and take a fly.Monady last week I lost 6 squid on my flies the largest would have been around 30cms . Never knew Squid lived in the lake.I should add I caught Bream And St's on flies in the lake ,Bream on bait before I used flies.Been broken off by some big fish swimming with the st's .Seen A dead catfish in the lake of around 60cmsand have seen the odd flounder picked one up of a step and released it back in the waterAnd have seen some KG whiting as well.