hey Barbz,they go hard mate, long fast runs an big aerials. the first one took about 45 or so and the second one was over an hour.Matt that guy in the kayak is keen for sure. A mate of mine had a 16ft white chase a thresher to the jetty at port giles a few years back. Wouldnt like to have been in a kayak that day.savagelip suprisingly quite good to eat we skun the fillets and iced them down quickly.regards Azza1