yeah man im using them for everything now....always have them in my bag with a few flies. got sum bream last week at victor on bread flies, got dusted on a few big carp at festies centre. even squided with em an some tiny tiny tiny yo zuri squidjags i foun at victor tackle while smashin some tommies at sullies boat ramp two nights ago. best thing i ever did buyin these things. and flowing water is made for em.....u can fish one fly on all levels of water.....from dry to bottom. havent picked my flyrod up in 6 months!!!!!!!!!! i took a bloke from work down with me las night....he never even hel