Thanx Projoe, Sorry to sound ignorant but honestly I really am, with regards to fly fishing and most of what you said I didn't understand ie, wt line etc I guess I am looking for salmon or any other species that would take a fly from a boat out on the brine I have no idea about fly fishing but looking to expand my fishing repertoire and hence try new techniques, I figured that the more skills I have the more opportunities I get for catching these elusive fish!!!! no harm in in trying and frankly it looks a bit of an "art" !!!! :cheer: Thanx Fishnut