Hi GuysI've talked a bit about this elsewherehttp://www.strikehook.com/forum/43-yorke-peninsula/177132-ardrossan-friday-7102011?limit=15&start=15AS I mentioned, Owner Mutu light circle size 4 for a number of years & as has already been mentioned, not easy to source ATM. I use them on a single dropper paternoster (getting the 2nd hook in my hand was enough to stop me doing that again), main line 6lb braid with a 20lb mono leader. I tie dropper loop in the 20lb mono and then loop over a swivel with 10lb mono trace to hook and the 10lb helps with the abrasive mouths. Fuoro would certainly