i tend to stick with fish based products, and i like to go to a fish market and get them to fill up 3-5 10l buckets and i then mince them, add quite a lot of tuna oil and some pellets. I use the pellets to give it some body to help attract other fish.This concoction makes Garfish STs, and slimy macs and similar fish for that matter, go crazy, and that in itself is a form of burley.