@ 1ONMEPILLIE - have you heard this from word of mouth or from people who have seen/used them? What problems have you heard about and what other similar reels represent better value?T BONE - Yeah, I would of thought they represented great value on face value. Glad to hear yours is going well. As you said you're not paying for a Saltiga etc.Thanks guys for your responses. Now clear as mud!... I also notice the Seagate available for around $70 more. Runs a couple of extra CRB bearings, that's the main difference wonder if it's worth the extra?Cheers again.