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  1. kon
    Use of crab nets purely to assist hauling up a large fish or squid potentially generates a bit of a grey area at Noarlunga. The Regs state fishing activity or fishing means the act of taking an aquatic resource, or an act preparatory to, or involved in, the taking of an aquatic resource; thus it could be technically argued that a crab net lift is part of the act of fishing, and as Noarlunga jetty is "line fishing" only, any use (as opposed to possession!?) of crab nets is illegal there. The pdf itself is a little confusing. On the one hand the text refers to "line fishing" in Permitted Act
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    Okay, I`ll bite - a manifestation of inherent human atavistic need which harks back to our origins and development as a species, and has not yet been totally subsumed in all people by urbanisation and "civilisation". Exactly the same "need" to interact with the natural world that drives the desire in some (many?) to own pets, go camping and grow one`s own vegies. Merely on a different level. The question itself, of course, infers some sort of reprehensibility in the pastime - which would logically make one wonder whether any person asking such a question would be ideologically inclined towa
  3. kon
    Does anyone else think that his fingers look just a little out of proportion?
  4. kon
    "A clue, Watson?" - Pres of FOGSV and three Onka City Council members in the photo - One of whom is also a Southport SLSC member - And another SLSC rep in the article bemoaning being unable to use the river for comps THE Onkaparinga River must be returned to its former glory as a destination for watersports, a group of concerned locals says. Onkaparinga councillor Bill Jamieson would ask his council for a study on the best way to improve the river’s health. “It has got to happen,” said Cr Jamieson, also a Southport Surf Life Saving Club member. “At the moment the river is siltin
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    Here we go again I don`t suppose the word "valid" would have been used in the context of "ostensibly justifiable" as opposed to "with unquestioned integrity"?? This is a fishing forum for goodness sake, not a scientific presentations or debate vehicle, or a court of law, and due to the generally conversational style it is very easy to assail someone using pedanticism in relation to lack of perceived strict correctness....if one has such intent, of course. And with respect to lack of knowledge, without for instance having a professional hands-on marine sciences and/or departmental man
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    nok Okay, I`ll bite one final time. If that is your perception, then so be it, puzzled as I am in relation as to why you would think I am disposed towards playing word games. From where I sit, I would suggest that it is someone else who gives every impression of going out of their way to engage in word games based on semantics and purported hidden inferences in anything I say. And, very much as an observation rather than a compliment, seemingly very skilled at it too. From my recollection we went through the exercise at the time on the basis that the 07/08 survey was the late
  7. kon
    People, this is what it boils down to. Let`s take all the re-analyses, all the 3.2, 3.6, 1.8 kg weights as a given, whatever...but here`s the thing. According to the 00/01 and 07/08 recfishing surveys, we caught about 150% more biomass in 00/01 than in 07/08, but a very similar number of fish. Am I the only one who can see just a wee bit of an anomaly here in terms of what information it is appropriate to use, and for what purpose?
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    nok - I most certainly did not insinuate that anyone was trying to mislead, read again what I wrote. - How did you get "dubious" out of "technically correct based on" ? - Your statement "no re-adjusted harvest weight for the recreational snapper catch in 2000/2001 was calculated in that report. You "chose" to determine that value (153 tonnes), based on assumptions, which apparently are incorrect." and the rest of your post dealing with that was exactly my point in my previous post. ie my "assumptions" are based on trying to make sense of an anomaly whereby the average weight for a (rec)
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    nok I`m admittedly not sure what the "your" refers to, but the RFSA graph is technically "correct" based on the 2005 MSF re-appraisal - it certainly is not correct looking at the 07/08 RFS readjustment of the 00/01 NRIFS...which would have been, to me, more of an apples/apples approach, resulting in an approximately horizontal line at just under the 200 tonne mark for recs. One would hope the information source chosen for the 00/01 amount in the graph was for a reason other than to merely cherry-pick "to advantage"...then again the 2010 SAR also mentions the 42% figure for recs! T
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    TB This is where it gets a little tricksy. Numbers or weight? Or should that be...supposed weight... Note the sentence in the first para on p3 of the attached. "It was assumed that the size structure of the fish taken by recreational fishers was the same as that taken by the commercial handline fishers in the same region..." And this 2005 follow-up gives 115,000 harvested by recs - yet the "re-analysed" data for 2000/01 in the 2007/08 RFS states there were 85,000 harvested. As compared to 97,000 in 07/08. Except, the 2005 re-appraisal of the 2001 NRIFS ascribes a weight of 3.
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    nok As I previously indicated, the graph from the RFSA site (April 2013 from memory) has now been supplanted by the SARDI 2014 SAR (for commercials at any rate), and the rec extraction...toss a coin...to be advised.
  12. kon
    The thing is that it`s somewhat dated information re commercials, if you superimpose the actual 2014 SAR figures there is an obviously declining pro catch. As far as "only two data points" for recs are concerned - those are the recfishing surveys, and for better or worse that is what advises management decisions and sector allocations. Unfortunately this is the only source of formal or "official" information available to PIRSA...or whoever...to inform any directions or positions. And as I have said in a previous post, there may (or may not) be a nasty surprise for recs arising from the
  13. kon
    Preaching to the converted there TB Supposedly "robust" statistical analysis techniques and methodologies, but when you consider the extrapolated conclusions given the sample size...ya gotta wonder.
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    Nanman One has to keep in mind a few things here; - Belatedly, in the last year or two there actually was action taken to reel in commercial extraction (eg Gulf daily limits and hook number reductions). However there have been no additional new input or output controls implemented for the recreational sector (the non-charter component at any rate) - The 6 week closure applies to all sectors, the aim being both to limit extraction and, perhaps more importantly, to minimise disturbance to spawning aggregations wherever they may occur during this period. - The additional 6 week sp
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    About 20% (including charter sector which makes up just under half of that take) - but this is somewhat dated info based on the 07/08 Rec fishing survey. This will no doubt be reset by another survey which I believe is currently underway(?) And keep in mind that commercial catch is significantly down over the last couple of years, following the 2010 extraction peak - in fact 2012 was actually slightly less than 2008. Also depends which region one is talking about - the state rec average was assessed as 20% but GSV was nudging 40%. Then again, currently the Northern GSV area is where
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    Fishingmad Have had similar thoughts folks - a few weekends ago on a Sat drove over the bridge late AM and then mid arvo. Nobody downstream of the bridge, but I swear there were chair people every 30-ish metres upstream. Hey, it was a nice day and all... not a mullie dude myself, but is that the best time of day to catch those in that part of the world?
  17. kon

    ripped off

    kon replied to silk's topic in General Fishing

    silk Just out of interest, without asking for a business name of course, is this a big enterprise in Alberton (easily googled) or a smaller operator? If it`s not the big business, may be worth categorically clarifying that for the benefit of anyone who may view this thread. A few people would have googled by now, I am guessing. If it is the big business, then...well, let`s just say that you are not obligated to answer any given post...I certainly won`t take offence if you don`t respond to me on this particular matter. OR you could quite legitimately reply that you do not consider
  18. kon
    Tony, that is very interesting recent feedback. Would certainly like to hear a few West Lakes "regulars" expand on that. If this situation appraisal by the one person you have spoken with is in fact representative of current state of play, then I am not in the least surprised at the Draft ByLaw initiatives. The residents and council would patently have had enough, intend to do something about it, and this smells like a "metro shark tackle restrictions" redux. Enough people complain for long enough, etc. "No fishing 10pm to 6am" signs all around the lake (or at the very least within coo
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    RJ Try this recent and comprehensive complaint - could very well be one of many. http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCEQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.charlessturt.sa.gov.au%2Fwebdata%2Fresources%2FminutesAgendas%2FItem%25203.37%2520-%2520Road%2520Closure%2520-%2520Foot%2520Thoroughfare%2520between%2520Kerr%2520Grove%2520and%2520Allerdice%2520Court%2520West%2520Lakes%2520-%2520Appendix%2520E.pdf&ei=oQvRU7-BMZSF8gWlgoGAAQ&usg=AFQjCNGrA8trPiZJxP9p0OG80xEiKcws9A&bvm=bv.71667212,d.dGc&cad=rja
  20. kon
    Bump. A somewhat prophetic old thread, having flicked through a few posts.
  21. kon
    Hobbo No - but if it was regular and ongoing and an amenity nuisance (voices at 2am etc) then I sure as hell would be getting together with a few neighbours and making strong representation to the council to make ByLaws to "make it stop". I suspect this is exactly what may have happened in this instance with potential ByLaws pertaining to Westlakes fishing? And perhaps a timely reminder (for the people who consider it "as of right" to fish at Westlakes) of what transpired with metro sharking - sure, something may be legal...until it isn`t...
  22. kon
    Ranger, I can`t believe I missed that... I did note this when I read the "paper"; Materials and Methods Seabird case note data prospectively collected over 5.5 years (January 2004 - June 2009) from the Australian Marine Wildlife Research and Rescue Organisation (AMWRRO) at Torrens Island, South Australia were reviewed. but did not even remotely consider the (let`s be kind here, shall we?)...coincidence...
  23. kon
    I might raise the ire of a few people with this, but to be fair there would be nothing unreasonable about something like "No fishing within 100-200 metres of a residential property 10pm-6am" ...from a residential amenity perspective. I sure as hell wouldn`t be happy with a telescope starwatching club having a midnight picnic on, say, a vacant block across the road from my place on a regular basis...would anyone here? Are there current restrictions regarding no-go areas or times along the lines of what I mentioned above? (If that`s already covered off then this new gem certainly ne
  24. kon
    Del, try this BTW - for the last (invariably RFSA trashing) poster in the screenshot, my information is that ANSA have responded to the Council and RFSA will be responding.
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    Ranger There may be some scientific background to some people in AMWRRO (and they milk their association with the very highly credentialled Roger Byard for all its worth) but they do seem to have anti-boating and anti-fishing activist inclinations. Think of them as a marine-specific RSPCA... Seem to be metaphorical "drinking mates" with Port River Dolphin Watch too, sure I`ve seen at least a couple of news articles over the years where people from both organisations are quoted or interviewed.
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