Thanks guys, i think the tide will be half out to half in whilst we are there, but we will give it a go anyway, be nice if we can catch a feed. we will have done our driving quota for the day from Mildura. next day will be lurking around Whyalla or Cowell for a day or three,then Arno,Neill,Lipsons,Tumby,Lincoln, Farmbeach,Drummond etcWJ