ShimsMan 1 Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 I'm looking at selling off the trophy Live Fibre 10.5' and getting myself a Wilson Supergraph.Anyone know much about these rods? The live Fibre is a great rod, but my style of fishing has changed and it's time for something heavier. The rod looks the business and well made like all of the Wilson rods, but i'm unsure of the cast weight; rod is the heavy surf 12' low mount model and is based on the MT8144/2C blank.Anyone have any experience with these rods or the blank itself? I would be looking at casting about 4-6oz or so but want to know if it's up to the job, the wilson site doesn't really give any specs so I'm stumped!Any help would be appreciated guys, thanks in advance! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cal 480 Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 Yeah mate nice rod, they have been discontinued so may be the reason you cant find anything on it,and make grabbing it even more worthwhile. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShimsMan 1 Posted November 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 Thanks Cal,Do you know much about the casting ability of these blanks at all? That's the main reason I've been looking at these rods, was also looking at the Wilson Seacoaster but not sure if it's heavy enough of a rod for the job.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
newtontoney 57 Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 iv got a supergraph im sure its a 4120 fkn wicked salmon rod.....4oz no worries 6oz I wouldn't chuck it. not sure if they were all 4120's tho. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
newtontoney 57 Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 ray and annes have them in stock also Quote Link to post Share on other sites
newtontoney 57 Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 id go 8144 if 6oz was on the cards and big baits Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShimsMan 1 Posted November 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 id go 8144 if 6oz was on the cards and big baitsThe rod I'm looking at is the heavy surf, would that be capable of 6-8oz casting?I'm pretty sure 8 wraps could handle that kind of abuse, but wanna be sure before I take the plunge and buy one... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
newtontoney 57 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 personally...with an 8144 I wouldn't chuck any more than 6oz max........5120 or ideally heavier for an 8oz lead ....otherwise you wont get any distance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShimsMan 1 Posted November 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 personally...with an 8144 I wouldn't chuck any more than 6oz max........5120 or ideally heavier for an 8oz lead ....otherwise you wont get any distance.Thanks toney,Will take the jump and get the 8144, 6oz should be more than enough for what i'm doing but if not, I can just use a grapnel.The real challenge now is to find some grapnels with wires that won't rust when you wag some salted samboys at them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Knackers 696 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Hey Shimsman,I have the supergraph you are referring to, from memory marked "Heavy Surf 12 ft". I don't like it very much, feels too soft, doesn't handle heavy weights at all. I am used to fast action rods though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShimsMan 1 Posted November 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Hey Shimsman' date='I have the supergraph you are referring to, from memory marked "Heavy Surf 12 ft". I don't like it very much, feels too soft, doesn't handle heavy weights at all. I am used to fast action rods though.[/quote']Thanks for the heads up knackers,would you take a rod based on the regular 8144 over the 8144/2C then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Knackers 696 Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Mate,I wouldn't know. I find the Wilson is fine for throwing 70 gram lures but not so good with bait. I much prefer my 5120 OH for surf fishing with baits. I think the issue with the supergraph is that it is lighter version of 8144. I think the the blank on the supergraph is a Kilwell 8144 "G". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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