yorke_angler 0 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 hi guys, I have just bought a new sedona reel and was thinking of trying braid instead of hybrid line.. I have never used braid before and wouldnt have a clue where to start.. currently i am using 8lb yo zuri hybrid.. What would be equivalent to that in braid? I will be mainly catching ruggers, salmon, squid and whiting.. any suggestions would be much appreciated 8) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger 48 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 You will still use an 8lb braid, but being much thinner you will get much more onto the spool, so rather than use a heap of line, you will put a monofilament backing on first and use the braid as a top shot. The tacklestore can spool it up for you if that helps.Otherwise you can get a much greater line capacity with braid by getting the tacklestore to fill your spool with "bulk braid" which they should have in 1000m spools. You only pay for what you use off the spool. For the species you listed, you wont need this added capacity though.Choice of braid is personal preference, also talk to the tacklestore and consider your budget.Braid slips much more than mono too, so you may have to use different knots to get decent holding power, and always tie a florocarbon leader on the end, as braid has virtually no stretch. You will need this leader to provide a little stretch or you will pull hooks.The braid will cast further and you will feel a lot more bites, but you will have to get used to setting hooks with it, and it will make noise going through the guides on your rod. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yorke_angler 0 Posted March 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 you will put a monofilament backing on first and use the braid as a top shot.thanks ranger, but now im even more confused, lol.. could you explain this a bit more, not quite sure what you mean? thanks :-\ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger 48 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Coz braid is so thin, on a reel where you would normally get let's say 150m of mono, by using braid you might get 300m on the spool.This can work out expensive, and much of that braid may never leave the spool when you are onto a fish, so to cut down on expense you can half fill the spool with mono (as a backing to start filling the spool) then tie the braid onto this and continue to fill the spool completely with the braid.It's only the braid then which gets used, but underneath it is a lot of cheap monofilament which is just used to fill the spool and keep the braid up near the lip of the spool so that it casts well by having a full spool. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yorke_angler 0 Posted March 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 ah cool, thanks for that. I thought that's what you meant but was just having a blonde moment, lol.. so you could still fill the spool with only braid and add a mono trace if you wanted? ??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saltiga5 3 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Anything under 12lb use fireline! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger 48 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 so you could still fill the spool with only braid and add a mono trace if you wanted?YES, but you either put a small amount of mono on first (just a few metres), so that the braid doesn't slip on the spool, or you wrap some tape around the spool first, so that the braid has something to bite down into, preventing it from slipping, as braid directly onto the spool will slip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yorke_angler 0 Posted March 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 thanks for the help guys! I've just ordered 300yds of 8lb Fireline (went for green not pink, lol).. I think im just going to spool it myself and put a bit of yo zuri hybrid on the reel first to stop it slipping.. ;)do you guys think 8lb will be strong enough for ruggers?? ??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger 48 Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 do you guys think 8lb will be strong enough for ruggers??that's why you have a drag on the reel. Set the drag less than the breaking strain of the line so that if the tension gets too much, line starts to peel off instead of the line breaking. The general rule of thumb is to set the drag to 1/3rd the breaking strain of the line, but I like to crank mine up a bit more than that!Then you know that you have 300m of line the fish can take and tire itself out on, before you run out of line and the fish wins that round! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shark_Fisho 1 Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Suffix performance braid,Tuffline or Penn Power braid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yorke_angler 0 Posted March 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 I ended up getting 300yds or 8lb fireline, and spiderwire, should be in the post today.. anyone used these?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saltiga5 3 Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 I ended up getting 300yds or 8lb fireline, and spiderwire, should be in the post today.. anyone used these??The fireline should be perfect for it and it's not too expensive. It does get a little fluffy after about a years hard work but it doesn't cost much to replace. I get the 125yd spools for bream, school mulloway, salmon, snook etc.. usually in the 4-6lb range with some cheap line for backing. When it's really windy i do get some wind knots but apart from that can't complain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger 48 Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Fireline would not be my first choice, as it's not a true braid, it's a gelspun line.Because of this it's courser and more wiry than the soft and supple braids available.Fireline also tends to lose it's colour quickly, and it fluffs up after awhile, although this fluffyness does not reduce it's strength.Having said this though, if you are new to braid, Fireline is a damn good starting point, as it's much cheaper than other braids and it does it's job quite well.We have ALL used Fireline in the past, and I dare say you will be the same. You'll start with Fireline now, and in time you'll compare different lines and end up going with something else.I'm currently on a Sunline "Castaway" kick! It's a beautiful soft and supple line which casts a mile, but it's also pretty expensive stuff by comparison. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yorke_angler 0 Posted March 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 thanks guys, i guess its like anything in fishing, trial and error.. any thoughts on the spiderwire braid tho? I heard it doesnt lose colour like other braids? it was the same price as fireline so thought I'd grab some of each to try.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YoBBo 0 Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 I have used spiderwire.NEVER EVER AGAIN! It is rubish.Sunline or Tufline for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yorke_angler 0 Posted March 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 ohh..great i just wasted $50, lol.. what exactly was wrong with it mate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YoBBo 0 Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 I used it in a diferent set up mate.I had it on a 7000, bottom bashing. If it rubbed on other line or a reef just a bit, it fraid up.Remember, this is just my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
luke_westlakes 4 Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 yeah i dont rate spiderwire, its real thick compared to other braids for its lb rating, fades pretty quick and feels real wirey but saying this its pretty strong... I just don't like it tho, much better braids out there for the same money... lol sorry yorke angler Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yorke_angler 0 Posted March 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 thanks guys, guess i should of done more research first.. oh well, i needed it in a hurry for a charter im going on next week with a well known local personality.. ;Dhopefully it holds up for the day, i'll put the fireline on my other sedona and do bit of a comparison 8) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brenton 637 Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 I love the fireline in the 4-6lb but am not a real fan of it in the heavier classes because i have had it become unfused near the knots,I wouldn't mind giving that Sunline a go because on BM people are raving about it....where did you get it Ranger??? because i haven't seen it around. cheers brenton Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger 48 Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 St Kilda Tackle and Tucker Brenton. Look for the CASTAWAY, not the standard Sunline.The lightest is 10lb, but that's about the same thickness as 6lb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shark_Fisho 1 Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 fireline is ok but i goes very fluffy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest yogi Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 I've never used Firewire so can't comment, I normally use Daiwa Tournament but I've just spooled up my new reel with Linesystem Basshard PE Braid, a nice fine braid with a good feel, hopefully it'll perform well.Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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