I've tried the negotiating part and so have many of friends. Doesn't work. About 1 out of 10 residents have responded nicely to it from my experiences, and yes that 1 out of 10 actually fishes. I have had residents threaten me with violence, can you imagine a 15 year old lad fishing and not making a noise being abused and threatened for fishing! Doesn't bother me. I take it ranger that u don't seem to fish west lakes as much as other regulars, you're lucky u have a boat. This cleaning up rubbish day is pointless, the council have tunnel vision, I'm not too fussed anyway. Quite simple put, I'd