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Excellent way to boost the local economy. Well done Victoria. http://www.fishingworld.com.au/news/surveys-confirm-angler-satisfaction-in-western-port-according-to-fisheries-victoria

Thanks for the update fishos. I was over in Victoria January this year and it was great to see the target 1 million campaign on tv and billboards etc. Good if they are looking to stock saltwater species in SA like they do interstate. I gave up trying last year. Recs in SA have pushed for saltwater stocking and artificial reef habitat enhancement for years.

A wise man, member of this forum and a Chair of the DRFC once said "we all want the same goals we just have different ways of achieving those goals". I often don't agree with the points or manner by which representative groups go about things but they have their reasons. No different to the way we as individuals do. One thing I do know is these new groups exist because of past failures in the system before they existed. In todays world, needed reforms are rarely acheived completely amicably without public advocacy but the result "goal" is ultimately more important than the meth

The video also states that footy park would hold 80000..... Likely an estimate but did it hold more before they changed the seating format?

Thanks RJ for the response. Just a trivial misunderstanding I agree. I had a bit of a chuckle to myself (not being derogatory). As for getting together. I think it needs to happen at a representative level between the existing groups. I now have three kids, work and I am in the midst of starting up a new soccer club/working at a soccer academy etc wearing several hats. Sorry to let you down but I can't go back to it all and I no longer bother to go fishing anyway. I would have to file for divorce first if I did want to lol...

I was only talking about the direction mooted by contributors to this thread re: Form a rec council and funding via the grants process. That is what has been put forward on here as potential solutions. Apologies but I thought that was obvious?

15 feet is the average depth it states in the video.

The answer can be found here in this historic video about the construction of west lakes. Takes one back in time this video!

The direction for a rec fish council has been given RJ. Funding to facilitate needs via the 3rd round of grants etc. Thats the advice. I read the trade ministers releases. Maximising recreational fishing isnt on his or the govs radar its all about maximising, maintaining interstate and overseas exports. You say there's rec fishers who are capable and shouldn't be underestimated. Summons them together and go and do it just accept that those your up against are a part of a global industry with endless funds and influence over state policy.

Unfortunately the pathetic response from rec fishers to the recent government attempt to ask what we wanted pretty much summed up the reason for what happens. Out of about 280K rec fishers, 800 or so turned up at the community consultations and about 1500 bothered to fill in the questionaires.Most of the 1500 submissions were against the proposed changes. Recfishsa's survey showed over half were opposed to the whiting reduction. The proposed spatial closures around yorke peninsula were small. The one implemented afterwards is huge. There was broad cross sectional issues raised including co

I appreciate the response, yes a liverpool fan since the early 80's as a kid. Can't be too hard on pollies or generalise them all. There are some who play with a straight bat but also have to exist within the system to conitinue to serve the public. Ever had situations not ideal but had to settle with the lesser of many evils? Its important to remember that the really wealthy in OZ don't share their wealth like other western nations do and SA's wealthy are even more conservative than the rest of the states. The gap is growing (tabulated via graphs since the 1970's) and that gap has p

Hi Panga. Sorry but I wasn't at any protest in Adelaide. I have often attended public consultation sessions but never protests. I have always believed in following consultation processes to achieve desired outcomes. If the outcomes from those processes fail the public then that's the governments problem to deal with/be held accountable for not mine. I dont see my position on fisheries as anti commercial or anti government. I just have different views on how to manage the resource sustainably. Quite simply we can't continue to use the gulfs scalefish stocks to supply the world or even

Gains against degradation are small because there's not enough cash or people available to address the scope of the damage at least in the short term. Much of this countries waters are still not influenced heavily by pollution sources outside of plastic pollution however. As for fisheries in SA, well I have conceeded to the fact the global seafood distribution sector (not the pro catchers themselves) have the influence over management RFL or no RFL. Large variations in commercial catch still occur during favourable environmental conditions due to the continued use of efficient methods wi

With all due respect bratko, even under a ring fence trust fund account, monies are spent based on committee decisions which are overseen/signed off by the Minister of the day. Such monies can be used for better survey and catch data, tangible enhancement of fishing infrastructure, direct fish stock enhancement and better policing etc which may assist in advocacy but it's not for dictating to government. Tackles

Good luck in any case RJ with your plans. My intentions here were only to be informative as I don't even go fishing anymore and have moved on to other recreations. I have no intention of being formerly involved but still try my best to assist others with what I have researched over the years so solutions to problems are prepared for. Cheers Tackles

What you are referring to Panga in saying "we own the waters" is our social licence to fish as opposed to a legislated license to fish. However, as I already highlighted, NSW gov doesn't recognise their rec license as having the intrinsic rights in law other licence forms are afforded. This would need to be clarified for any SA model. Hence its all up to the will of the government. Linked below is an example of the will of the WA government funding snapper releases on top of previous public funding. This has been mooted for SA marine scalefish but Pirsa and SARDI dont seem interested?

A census style program needs to be run so you can provide "in principle" majority support for a rfl prior to the election. The only access fishos have to the funding required to facilitate this is via the current grants process. The $5,000,000 RJ touted divided by the estimated 277,000 fishers =$18.00 pp. Minus say half of the population under 18 or retired then you would need $36.00 pp to reach that revenue. Big hurdles to work out: 1.gov costs to facilitate against revenue? 2. Do we assist peak bodies financially? My opinion, support no peak body financially or support a

Must be a bottom up democratic process. Any proposal needs to be put out to the fishing public for vote because both major state parties have expressed they want evidence of majority support. Neither will risk election chances by mooting a RFL themselves based on the minority of avid fishos interested in fisheries management.

Gov administration and compliance costs, if applicable committee costs for facilitation of meetings, hours worked by members all need to be deducted, payments to third parties etc. We also have an aging population with an average age higher than most other states which needs considering. If a large demographic fall into the retired/youth sectors then that impacts bottom line against costs.

There is much to consider. Reading interstate in NSW I am of the understanding their rec licence isn't considered a true licence such as a drivers licence or commercial fishing licence and doesn't hold the same intrinsic rights in law. I for one am not going to be critical of rec fishers reactions to an rfl or management issues over the last year or more. We all know raw advocacy is rarely 100% accurate or diplomatic but can one then also complain about apathy? Imho take the pertinent points and move on with your learning.

I was a long term supporter of a RFL. I think for SA its a good thing for freshwater and I recognise the improvements to access and stocking being made there. For the salt recs need greater recognition in management arrangements to win my support. This imho comes by the will of the government not by licence revenue or any other revenue. Cheers Tackles

http://www.seafoodsource.com/blog/snippets-from-down-under/27901-why-australia-flounders

Mungo men used fishing nets in OZ 42000 years ago and coral reefs were wiped out by La Nina 1.4 million years ago so pre fishing advocate claims are based on what exactly?

Personally in the SA situation, I found the worst period for fish stocks was back in the 1990's. Most people i know who have been fishing long enough agree. The biggest reason for poor fishing catch rates now are due to poor planning by the fisher, natural variation and loss of access to previously productive locations through numerous mechanisms.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-12/marine-census-plenty-of-fish-in-the-sea/6310072 The World Register of Marine Species has just published its latest list of the marine species. At last count there were close to 230,000 species and that number climbed by 1,450 just last year.