hey not all the braid on there is crap but some is, my mate got spectra extreme in 60lb 500mtr spool and was REALY crap knots didnt hold for shit, get one little birds nest and the braid starts to frayup and get loose.i got "pex" in 50lb 500mtr spool and it works great knots hold realy well doesnt get windknots has no memory at all, only bad thing is after afew big fish puting tension on the eyes the colour starts to come out and leaves colourd gunk on your eyes,i think its just in who you get the braid from i can get the sellers I.D that sold me the good stuff if you want