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i hear ya rollcast...this was taken years ago.....and unfortunately the"friends" of this creek and conservation team electrofished the whole system e few seasons back....suburban and all other trout who were residing here at the time of this photo are long gone. was one of my favourite little spots up till then as its where we broke our teeth. funny tho....i revisted it last season....used to be full of mostly browns...and now there cousins have moved in.......... u jus cant stop immigration...and we call this a multicultural country....bahahahahhahhahahahaaaahdefinately not gonna intentionally blow the lid on any spots.and sorry if i have...peaceFriends yeah what a joke eh?Don't get me started on those BAST----.Yeah the drought and the electro fishers killed that spot but a few browns have survived.I think the "cousins"may have been a recent illegal stocking .They have turned up in a few spots that they never used to be.Unfortunately they will probably run downstream with the first good flood' date='as is their nature.The browns will always stay put.Cheersjohn[/quote']

Rollcast' date=' I never post location in my posts and try to make all my photos so only people who already fish the area will recognize it so I don't get your post. I am very protective of this area as I live on its doorstep- I too have fished there for well over 20 years.. Not too sure what you mean about giving away too much as your post definitely does, shall I stop posting? I get lots of PMs asking location and I have never told anyone and prefer to fish on my own.[/quote']Nah Mate its all good ,I was not having a shot at you.I enjoy reading your posts.I think you have misinterpreted me.All I was saying Is the place is getting flogged but I am not suggesting it is your fault.It is a shame your rescue got reported on the news though.I got a laugh from your mate telling the media it was a crocodile attack.I do not think I have given any thing away that has not already been said in the above posts if you read them again.I apologise if you think this is incorrect.Glad to see you have taken up fly fishing.Cheers

Hi johntwo,I have fished that gauging station pool on and off for 20 odd years and the small dam above it as well as the creek upstream.It used to be private property but the area was bought up by SAwater as catchment years ago.Unfortunately fishing there is illegal now so be careful what you post as some on this site are a bit funny about stuff like that.Also if I can recognise it so can others if you get my drift.The gorge bream reaper has been fishing behind FMC as you call it is getting hammered due to publicity on the net.I have fished there for 20 years and have never seen the fish so spooky.I fished the upstream (Right upstream where the browns are) section on Monday.I was watching a fish rising from the bridge with my mate ( we are both over 50)wondering weather to tie on an emerger or a nymph, with my rod laying in the grass.Next thing I know a spin fisherman came barging up like a baby elephant and put the fish down.He then proceeded to cast under the foot bridge we were standing on and working his way upstream.I saw his personal number plate and recognised him as someone who posts on here regularly.He should learn a bit of etiquette.What made us laugh was the fact he was wearing brand new full length neoprene waders on a hot day to fish a tiny creek!Unfortunately our fisheries are tiny and I don't now how long they can handle the pressure.Glad to here you guys (reaper included )are getting a few fish especially on the Tenkara. Just be careful what you post as not everyone does the right thing like you guys.Im of to NZ in 5 weeks Yeeehaa.Tight lines Rollcast

I tend to agree with you Darren.Just one thing though mate these aren't nymphs.Spiders are soft hackle wets so no wingcase required.Cheers Rollcast

Another point worth noting is that when beads are tied on down eye hooks the point "swims" upward due to the centre of gravity ,much like a jighead.This can be handy as it ensures most trout are hooked in the top lip and not the bottom jaw.This holds the fish more scurely and does less damage to the fish than hooking the hinged flexible bottom jaw.It also means nymphs ride wingcase down.I used to tie my nymphs on fulling mill nugget easy eye hooks,as the straight eye stops this happening.I soon found they were not the strongest hook and were often bent when removed from a 6LB south island brown.Also I found I suffered less snags if the fly swam point up.I don't believe the fish care if the wingcase is on the bottom as real nymphs undoubtedly tumble every which way in the current when dislodged from their hideaway.Those knapeck hooks are really popular with the competition guys as they hold very well for a barbless hook due to the bent point.Quality control is a bit average IMHO and some of the eyes aren't rolled that well.Cheers Rollcast

Good job 1 fish.They would fool any trout in fast water down and across.Especially during a caddis hatch.Have you tried tying a black and peacock spider?Same tie but no tail.Use peacock hearl(2 strands tied on top of each other)for the body and black hen (not cock) hackle instead of the grizzle.This is one of my go to patterns on the ultra fussy spring creek trout on the west coast of NZ.its an old but extremely effective tie (and simple).I tie them in 16s and 18s on kamasan b175(heavy gauge) hooks.keep the hackle small ,from the eye to the point of the hook only.Most size 20's I see on this sight are over hackled and the hackle would suit a 12..Black and peacock is great tied in many different patterns including dries with a stiffer hackle.Cheers mateRollcast

They look good 1fish and those barbless Knapek hooks are very nice hooks to use aswell.Tony I hate to do this but I disagree with you about the bead being against the eye generally.I actually tie alot of my nymphs with a flash back on them and that is tied in over the top of the bead and tied in at the head. All it is is a kind of sparkly back on the fly. It also gives the nymph a slightly different posture on the drift too. Mind you I do tie a hell of alot with the bead against the eye but there is no problem either way.Cheers Dazz

They look very fishy catchy efforts mate but a small point, and in no way a criticism, the beads generally sit right against the eye of the hook with this particular pattern, but there again, what would a poor dumb trout know about what works or doesn't? I've found that the flies that are in the water the most are always the ones that catch the fish anyway

[/quoteGot to agree with Darren on this one.It is very common to tie the bead behind the hackle on soft hackle wets,it also helps flare the hackle.Cheers Rollcast

G'day Rollcast' date='I didn't say trout flies weren't challenging it's just you can only have so many in your fly boxes and all my fresh and saltwater boxes are full.I've even thinned them out and given away that many I can't keep track of them and I still probably won't use all the ones I have left This is just a bit of fun and relaxation for me mate and hopefully at the end of the day a few flies to hang on the walls and maybe some to give away as presents .Cheers Darren[/quote']Yeah I get your drift mate.I have tied literally thousands of trout flies over the last decade or so.I have a bulk storage container and about ten small boxes full.It is a nightmare trying to work out which ones to take on my annual NZ trips but I am slowly refining it after each trip.This november I will leave all the cicadas big stimulators and various terestorial patterns at home as it will be too early for those.I will still need to tie a bunch of small bead head nymphs ,mostly specific coloburiscis nymphs and the ever reliable Pheasant tails and hair and coppers.I go through these like whiting fishermen go through cockles and never seem to have enough.This year I plan on hitting the sea runners chasing whitebait on the south island west coast estuaries so will try a few Muzz Wilson style fuzzle fish and a few Yetis.Don't give too many of those flies away mate,you never not what patterns you will need in years to come.I always seem to want that one pattern that is not in my box on the day.Cheers MateRollcast

I know what your saying Chris' date=' hopefully Customs have a few slack days and I can get some of the feathers I'm after. I have a very good selection put together already and yes it is a very expensive form of flytying but it's making me think while tying and I love a challenge. Somehow tying trout and Saltie flies are so easy now it's not funny Let me know when the rod you get turns up and I can run through the process with you.Cheers Dazz[/quote'] G,day Darren,If your finding trout flies not challenging enough try tying some dads favourites or twilight beauties in size 18 or20.Or any fly with split starling wings and stripped quill bodies.A tip is if you want the two tone brown and copper effect that is evident on most local and Tassie mayfly abdomens then pick the first five peacock hearls adjacent the eye of the feather as they are the only ones displaying this colour.If you have trouble stripping the fluff off the hearls with your fingers you can use a pencil rubber(this took me a while to learn).Split starling upright wings is one of the most difficult tasks in trout flies.I was fortunate to observe Ray Brown Tying them before he moved to Tassie.Ray is a SAFFA life member and professional tier with amazing skills.He can tie a royal wolf in about 2 minutes.A few of us used to attend his house on Tuesdays for free tuition.The tying instructions for these flies can be found in Peter Luevres fur and feather, a must have book.If you can get these flies to look right and cock correctly on the water you have really achieved something.Now there is a challenge for ya.Cheers MateRollcast

Sincere apologise Mr 1 fish and Mr Rollcast' date='Given the size of the fish and the spots on the browny I was so sadly mistaken. Happy fishn in Creeky Twig [/quote']No need to apologise to me Highfly all good .We should catch up for a fish .Cheers mate

Ahh yeah.. not in SA. If you can however find a stocked stream called Twiggy creek in SA by all means please let us know if it's yours and we WILL ask first

Spot looks familiar' date=' If its private property in SA u gotta get permishWont refuse but its nice to ask first[/quote']I think you will find 1 fish caught these near Canberra mate.His post says the stream has just recovered after the bushfires in Canberra.High fly is on the money regarding SA streams though.Cheers all happy fly flick'n

Yeah I agree superb fish.Well done Azza

I get over there on a regular basis. Love the thredbo in Summer for the dry fly action and Uecumbene river during opening week is mind blowing.A couple of years ago myself and three fly fishing buddies got 257 rainbows during opening week.Most were black slabby spent fish but we got some fresh run fish amongst them.We did cheat a bit using indicators but never stooped as low as glow bugs (yet)Cracker fish mate have only caught 2 that big in over 30 years and had to go to NZ for them.I am green with envy.CongratsRollcast

Thats my point Rollcast... Kings start off just as small as these other fish.. kings are caught all over the coast line' date=' just not very often.. From stanvac to st kilda.. have heard of them swimmin around local jetties, caught off gleleng in the boat, hooked and lost of the breakwaters around northhaven and outer harbour..but if samboman says there are no kings in the lake... then there must be no kings[/quote']Doh!! I gotta learn to recognize sarcasm in print without the vocal inflection .My bad !Cheers Rollcast

There is no way a king fish could get in the lake' date=' they are never small enough.. only salmon, mulloway, Trevally and Snapper are small enough to swim in there.. I think a few eagle rays and Bronzies would be a good mix in there..[/quote']You can't be serious. What size do you think kings start at as juveniles

There have been reliable reports of a sunfish sighting in the port river,video of broadbill swordfish in the Port lincoln Marina, a whale at port Augusta, and I remember reading a report somewhere of an Atlantic Salmon(obviously Tassy fish farm escapee) at a jetty somewhere in SA but I don,t remember where. I saw an Eagle ray in the pat a few years back.If these odd occurences happen along with the other weird things listed here like the Port Trevas then it is quite reasonable to believe that a few lost Kingies may have been seen in West Lakes.Fish are unpredictable critters at times Rollcast

I have hooked a few but never landed one.I used a bread fly after berleying with bread.Had no success till I was given a great tip which was use liquid paper to paint the hooks white and flourocarbon leader.This tip also applies to bait fishing by introducing whit baited hook into the berley .Have been told the same technique can work on jumping mullet at dusk but have not tied it yet.CheersRollcast

I've fished at Bonython Park once before' date=' only managed two carp that day, great day though! On the subject of the Sturt River, I wonder what sort of fish would of been in the river prior to the destruction (concreting) of it, this was also prior to Carp taking over everywhere...[/quote']When I was a very young child in the sixties living in Glengowrie the teenagers across the road used to catch trout mostly rainbows on worms behind the Metro drive in Oaklands park in (now a bus depot).The trout and a few silver perch and goldfish were all the way down to the pat and I remember being told by the original proprietor of Bitewell (Anzac Hwy)that the odd trout would turn up in the nets of Mullet fishermen from the pat.Sturt Ck at Darlington had lots of trout back then and was popular spot to fish.This was before the south western drainage scheme which included concreting the drain and destroying the once pristine creek, was installed.Before The man made breakaway creek was dug at West beach on the bottom reaches of the Torrens it split two ways at Lockleys with half also draining to the Pat and the other tributary draining to the Port River via the swamp that was there before West lakes.The remainder of this creek can be seen as a drain, running through the airport before crossing the road and going through the golf course to join the pat also near the skatepark.These two schemes installed years apart helped drain the South Western Suburbs to allow for post war housing.

has anyone fished the sturt river ddown glenelg

No ' date=' but have always wondered what might be in that water around the skate park area on Afrikaines (?) Rd Never seen anyone in there so maybe it's off limits or just no fish ?[/quote']Thats the area I was talking about that had the big fish kill a few years back.The upstream side of that weir thing where the pelicans sit is fresh and was full of carp they were right up the concrete drain and for some reason we had more success catching them in the drain bit than the lake. the other side of the weir is salt and we regularly saw carp slowly die before being washed out the barcoo outlet drain.The drain empties not far from where the yuong fella got taken by the white a couple of years back.The creek that runs behind the airport is the bottom reaches of brownhill creek.The two creeks junction next to the skatepark.The barcoo uotlet was designed to flush the stinking stormwater out to sea without affecting the Patowalunga lake which is why the upstream locks were installed.The lake is filled via the bottom locks at high tide ,then the top lock is opened and the salt water flushes the stinking stormwater out to sea via the barcoo outlet pipe under the sewage works.

yeah I live in glengowrie and my sons childcare/kindy is in Kibby ave next to the concrete drain that is sturt creek.Spotted some huge carp there a couple years ago and took the boys down and this is where my eldest caught his first fish.Unfortunately about 2 years ago a big rain after a sustained drought saw the water turn black from runoff and it became a putrid mess of dead floating carp.Made the papers and the holdfast council spent the money and cleaned it up.Don't know if any survived but there sure was a lot of dead Crap(sic).I often wonder weather the carp that washed over the pat weir and end up out the Barcoo outlet helped berley up the Whites that were responsible for that young fellas death at west beach a few years back.

I was at Phillip Island two weeks ago watching Casey Stoner wrap up the Moto GP world chamionship (onya Casey)At the trackside campground there was a bunch of guys fishing for unusual target species.The campground was adjacent the main straight and separated buy a hurricane wire fence.They were standing on chairs so they could cast the soft plastic at every girl of any age that walked past.They kept this up for the whole three days of practice,qualifying and race day.The big difference was ,there is no delicate way of saying it,the soft plastic was a foot log rubber,you guessed it, pink dildo.No hooks required.Don't think they caught anything( no hooks) but they got plenty of enquiries and maybe a few bites and plenty of laughs.I think they would be more likely to catch toadies , puffers and leatherjackets than gar,flathead or whiting!!!CheersRollcast

The first pheasant tail nymph was tied by Sawyer ,a river keeper on the Test. It used only copper wire and the barbs of the centre tail feather of a cock ring neck pheasant.These days most tiers incorperate thread into the tying process for ease of tying.Common variants include peacock hearl in the thorax or beadheads.Sawyer would slowly lift the rod tip causing the nymph to swim up through the water column imitating the hatching naturals.This style of fishing led to the term "induced take".Traditionalists fond of fishing wet flies of the time were critical of Sawyers new nymphing techniques.I have caught more trout with this fly in varying weights and sizes than any other,in mainland oz ,Tassy and NZ.In faster water in NZI often cheat by hanging it under a small piece of sheeps wool.sourced off a barb wire fence as an indicator.Dead drift or very slow figure eight retrieve if fishing still water.CheersRollcast

I get mine from Tambo fine feathers.Good quality 2 year old birds.3 year old birds have longer hackles and are better for tying with but are very hard to source.Tambo also have excellent peacock in different grades and Guinea fowl.