Rods that are overhead and spin ?

[newtontoney 57]

Have seen it a few times with older style surf rods....some of the rods are apparently set up for spin and overhead, they have the amount of guides you would expect to see on an overhead rod, but the guides are spin.

Can anyone explain how this works ? does this cause stress on the blank ?

 

cheers,

[projoe 261]

As a general rule most rod blanks have a backbone & was more pronounced on older fibreglass jobs & a good rod builder would find the backbone & build the rod accordingly so if you had the backbone say 180 degrees out this would make the rod want to roll in your hands. I do recall some blanks when i was rod building having two backbones but i would chose the more aggresive one as the central spine to build the rod. 

I must admit that back then i used to check any rod or blank i was about to purchase for a good backbone placement luckily i had access to suppliers ware houses & could go through & pick the best one out.

These days with better manufacturing processes the backbone issue is just about non existant so a rod could be made for spin or baitcast with out to much difficulty but your mates might laugh at you. 

[Underpants 1,543]

One of my mates has an old overhead fibreglass rod he generally fishes with a spin reel as a salmon bait outfit.

 

Hang on, he doesnt believe in using a shock leader lure fishing with braid ......maybe give his experience a miss !

[newtontoney 57]

hmm...iv seen  rods up for sale made by some of the best rod builders in Adelaide(10-15yr old rods), they are apparently available to be used as overhead and spin, its a deliberate thing I would suggest. just unsure how they do it. and if it effects the blank

[projoe 261]

Silstar powertip rods have/had a couple of rods in the range that could be used for spin or overhead the only factor stopping some rod blanks being used for both types of reels would be the taper ie slow taper blanks are not ideal for overhead use.

you would still need a larger stripping guide for the spin reel application but in saying that because the rod needs more smaller guides to supplement the overhead (to reduce or stop line touching the blank) would reduce its effective casting range when the spinning reel was used on the rod.

I personally prefer a rod built  correctly for 1 style of reel to utilize the effectiveness of the blank & I guess to answer your question no building a rod for both style of reels on 1 blank would not harm the blank.

[newtontoney 57]

correct me if im wrong though..but surely the blank is bending in the opposite direction spin/overhead use...how doesn't this damage the blank ? I don't understand how this works

[projoe 261]

when you cast a rod it bends backwards & this does no damage!

[newtontoney 57]

fair enough....I don't know much on this subject, and I just assumed that if a rod was loaded to hard in "the opposite" direction it would cause slight damage. im obviously wrong . Thanks for the info projoe .