tonyb 1,017 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 After a good start using the Allbright knot to join 10 lb Braid to 10 lb Fluro carbon, I recently started to have a few failures :thumb:One of these was snagged on a tree and a gentle tug freed it, or so I thought 'til I got back to the car and noticed the braid dangling from the rod tip .hissy. a new bug and spin blade jig gone without getting it wet ::)On another occasion a snag took the fluro carbon/Lure with only the gentlest of tugs (10 lb gear can lift sunken logs with even pressure)By this time my confidence was gone and although I suspect it was probably my tying technique at fault, I was ready for a change ???I used "Scorpions" method of opposing, tucked half blood knots, for a while but found this knot bulky and fairly fiddly to tie :-\Anyway, long story short, the "young heads" came to the rescue witha variation of the "Surgeons dropper loop" which works an absolute charm with the added bonus that the flurocarbon tag end points backwards down the line so that the knot flows freely through the rings when casting 8)The knot is simplicity itself to tie and is quicker than others and impossible to get wrong as long as you lubricate well and snug it down real slow, then firm it well by tugging all the tails 8) 8)Simply, put the two tails (Braid and Fluro carbon)side by side, allowing plenty of slack, then tie an ordinary overhand knot 5 times through the same loop 8) 8) 8) Told you it was easy :fishing:A variation of this knot, found in a knot tying book, is to twist the two tails in a spiral around each other, then tie the knot. This is meant too give added strength but I haven't tried it yet as I'm very happy with the way it is now 8) 8) 8) :icon_e_ugeek:Cheers, tonyb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jagger 24 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Good to see you using it Tony. 8)I changed not long after watching the DVD you gave me with Adam Royter. It seemed a lot easier and quicker to tie than the usual albright knot and there has been no going back.Certain had no complaints about strenght either. I have just gone to 6lb braid with 6lb leader and it gives a beautiful small knot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve-Bream-Fishing 4 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Good tip Tony. I also use an Allbright and sometimes have a few problems with it catching on the guides :-\ so I might give the surgeons a go Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zads 0 Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 I used to use the Albright knot when fishing for Barra and found that the tag used to flick on the guides and would sometimes let go. A guide suggested I change to the Slim Beauty which is quick and easy with no double required and have not have any problems since. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tonyb 1,017 Posted March 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 Was she a blonde or a redhead zads? :icon_e_biggrin:C'mon mate, you've fired us up now, how about a description? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zads 0 Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 definitely blonde as I use yellow braid when I am up north Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pescados 1 Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 I been using the surgeons knot for a while and very happy with, simplicity being the best part. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grumps 0 Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 I'm with you TonyB...I've been using the surgeons knot for a while now to tie my fluro to braid and I have found its just as strong a knot, as the double uni knot,and alot easier to tie,and quickier... ;D ;D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
samboman 319 Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 Yep 5 surgeons knot for me, thank you Mr Mad Dog Royter : : :icon_lol: I have been using it for around 2yrs and won't change :fishing:A simple but strong knot and easy to tie in the dark and wind.... 8)Sambo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarsOne 137 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I'm possibly the most unco person I know when it comes to knots...I struggled to teach myself how to tie a kinda albright knot sorta thing...I can't believe this works... Being so simple. Just done it - tested it, and the line broke - not the knot. What a win.Thanks for a great tip Tonyb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tonyb 1,017 Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Another happy fisho :icon_e_biggrin: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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