Im sure you will catch them in the areas you have mentioned that you prefer to fish. However Ive had great success fishing in the channels in the upper regions of both gulfs.Middle beach, Pt Broughton, Pt Pirie etc etc. I target them where there is ribbon weed dropping into the channel. A moving bait or lure seem to work best for me.When I lived at Pirie I would work a gutter out from 4th creek regularly and caught some great fish there and in good numbers too.cheerssnapps