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Believe it or not my uncle use to work at the advertiser many many moons ago. As a very young lad he gave me a tour of the place. I took heaps of souvenirs whilst I was there and actually was given the original black and white photos that were taken of the barges being sunk, by the photographer himself! These weren’t copies, or re-prints, but the original photos, all of about A4 size. I kept them for many years but have no idea where they ended up. I think the barges were sunk in the 50's, but the photographer just happened to be cleaning up his work area of thousands of photo’s and prints when I was being shown around (early 80’s), and because they were pictures of boats, I took an interest in them and he said I could have them. How’s that for a bit of useless history!From memory when I use to fish with my dad out that way, the stanvac blocks were a locating point for a set of bouys that floated on the surface. The boats obviously connected their ropes to the bouys, and not directly to the blocks.... if that makes sense. The stanvac dump use to also have a big arse bouy sitting on it too, and we always use to pass it heading towards Hallets Cove. I also think there are 3 barge pieces on the bottom, although two barges were sunk, and I think it’s because one broke in half when it got sunk. There is a 3D sonar picture of how they are sitting on the bottom, somewhere on the net. I’ll see if I can find it for you

Mate, I heard from ALE the next morning and the first thing I said was lucky you guys had a good level headed skipper and the scuppers

Did he also tell you he was nearly launched over the front of the windscreen? We came off the top of a roller and in the corner of my eye I just remember seeing Ale's feet eye level, then I turned around to see him laying on the floor in the back of the boat....strange place to hang out in the middle of a storm I thought . He reckons he lost his footing but I reckon it may have had more to do with the copious amount of alcholic beverages consumed prior to the storm :whistle:

Only if you've been in it do ya know.that sinking feeling when the peninsula you came from disappears! And I know what you mean when it's not good and.you think 'holy shit, what if this isn't all its got?!?'

Yep, you've got it in one . When the lights of Adelaide disappear behind the rain and waves, and the sun is setting behind you, you get that eerie reminder that home and dry land is a long way away....

We were sitting in the middle of the gulf Saturday evening when we were hit by the storm / squall that some experienced over north of Adelaide. It was seriously amazing, and scary how quickly it went from a balmy evening blowing 10-15knots with 0.5m seas, to heavy pouring rain, darkness, thunder & lightning, 30-40knot howling winds and seas easily 2.5m. No exageration it changed within 10 minutes and we had just enough time to put away the bait, rods, sort the boat out and pull the anchor up before we were having waves crash over the top of us.My boat is a reasonably modern 6.5m fiberglass with a reliable motor and have plenty of fuel on board. I've got a few years of boating under my belt and feel reasonably competent and confident in my skippering abilities. It was an easy drive out to our spot 36km in the gulf sitting on 50km/hr, and had we wanted to we could have quite easily crossed to the other side without getting a drop of water on our heads. But it was the unpredicatbility of the weather and the speed of the change that caught us out. All on board kept a level head about themselves, didn't panic (too much) and we slowly made our way back in the darkness and through the pounding seas. The first 30 minutes of the storm was the worst and the fear in the back of my mind in that 30 minutes was whether we were through the worst of it, or was the sea actually going to get bigger. I doubt a smaller boat without scuppers (wet deck) would have made it to shore without the crew doing some serious bailing. Without clears on the boat we had at times some serious amounts of water coming in.Long story, but as others have alluded in the right conditions very small boats can make it across and back no problems. It's when the weather picks up and you're out in the middle that you may second guess your choice of crossing the gulf in a smallish boat.

Hey fella,Have you thought about a two man fiberglass canoe? Or are you dead keen on a plastic kayak? I recently picked up a two man fiberglass canoe from gumtree, $270 with two sets of paddles. This one is 3.5m long, flat bottom and nice and wide in the middle, so nice and stable. It's easily carried by two people on and off the roof racks and to the waters edge. I've recently pimped it out by adding an outrigger (for increased stability), some high back seats and some rod holders. It may not look as cool as a new kayak, but it's cost me all up less than $400, and I'm sure the fish won't care what I'm in!Food for thought and there have been quite a few canoes for sale recently on both ebay and gumtree.

Or mount the 2nd battery in the rear, close to the fridge so dont lose any voltage drop to the fridge.

Sounds like a good idea, but there is a reason why most people mount their batteries outside the vehicle cabin, and that's because of the gases that get produced from wet cell batteries. Some deep cycle batteries (like AGM's) don't produce gas so would be fine inside a vehicle. If you go down this path just make sure you have the appropriate battery type. On another forum a fella detailed how he spent a few days in hospital with chemical burns to his osophagus and lungs from the fumes that he inhaled whilst driving from his cabin mounted batteries. It's definately something to be aware of.

Well i think i've found my vehicle of choice. 99 Pajero 3L V6 Auto on Gas & Unleaded 190,000 on the clock. Full Mitsubishi service history. Just had a 200,000 service done. Last owner for 10yrs & appears to be a pretty maticulous oldboy. Sits in my original budget so i think it's a great deal. What do SH's think ?

If it's 1999 Pajero it would make it an NL Pajero. I'm pretty sure they only came out with the 3.5 litre V6, not the 3.0 litre. The previous model had a choice of either 3.0 or 3.5 litre engine. So as others have suggested, just confirm you have the model or engine size correct.If it's an NL Pajero from all accounts they are a pretty solid vehicle. I'm a member of the Pajero forum and the NL Pajero have a pretty strong following. A lot of guys prefer them over the later model NM Pajeros.With a budget of $10K most of the 4wd vehicles you're going to be looking at will have travelled at least 150,000km unless you find something that's been sitting in the garage for a while. So 190,000 sounds about right for the money your looking at spending. Some of the guys on the pajero forum are regularly getting above 300,000km out of the 3.5 V6 engines. So long as it has been looked after, regularly serviced and issues addressed as they occurred throught it's life to date there's not much more you can ask for when looking at second hand cars. Just remember every model of car has its particular issues and peculiar problems, and so long as you're aware of them, no matter what vehicle your looking at you will have people listing their faults.Good luck with whatever you decide.

Geez Rotare, that's some good input! Much of the criteria you have used is what I myself used in making my own choice:

Thanks Ranger. It's easy for eveyone to nominate "their" vehicle as the best, but what is best for one person, may not be best for the next. Hence why the original poster probably needs to answer some of these questions, if he hasn't already.

ended up changing my plans and stumbled across my own Pajero which ticked all the boxes for me.

We clearly have similar tastes and requirements! I have an NP Exceed diesel - and I love it. Electric everything, super comfy, reliable and economical. Tows my 21ft boat with ease. Great tourer too and doesn't shame itself offroad either. Mines had a 2 inch lift, airbags for towing, all terrain tyres, exhaust mod and runs LPG. With the LPG I'm getting 20- 25% increase in power and torque, as well as an increase in range. With a 3T towing capacity I'm assuming you have the NS or NT?

Everyone's going to have their own preferences depending on what they currently own, or have owned previously....If you can be a little more specific on what you're after, it may help narrow down the choices. Are you after petrol, diesel, duel fuel or don't care? Where are you planning on taking the fourby - gravel tracks, beachwork or hard core offroad? How often are you planning on taking it offroad - weekly, monthly or once a year? What sort of gear will you intend to carry - a few rods and a tackle box, or tents, portable fridges and camping gear? Are you planning on towing with the vehicle - If so, what will you tow? Will this be your daily driver, or just a second, weekend car? I could go on, but you probaly get the point.There would be several suitable vehicles, depending on how you answer some of those questions.If you haven't stopped reading yet, here's my suggestion.Diesel / petrols / LPG - Modern diesel are good, no very good, but for $8-10K I'm guessing you would be looking at something pre 2000(?), maybe 10 -15 years old. Most diesels in this era are okay and good work horses, but are generally slow, gutless and not overly fuel efficient as most will be normally aspirated, not turbo charged. Petrol motors will definately provide more performance, but will be heavy drinkers in low range off road. Petrol / LPG maybe be the compromise, but depending on the location of the LPG tank you may lose offroad clearance / ability.Offroad ability - you will be surprised where a reasonable quality 4wd will take you that has a low range gearbox, a little bit of ground clearance and reasonable all terrain tyres. If you're intending to do some light to medium offroading there is no need for big beamed axled 4wds', with massive tyres and masive lift kits as well. Everything is a compromise, and "generally", the more offroad orientated the vehicle is, the less onroad it becomes. Usage - I personally can't see the point in having a vehicle that is setup for 95% offroad, when it spends 99% of it's time on road. This comes down to personal opinion of course, but if you're spending the majority of your time on road, with the occasional light to medium session offroad, why not look at considering fourbys that have better onroad manners? - there are plenty that fit into this category. Some that come to mind are the Suzuki Vitaras, Pajeros and Prados..... and I'm sure they're is a host of others. These types of vehicles will likely handle and perform better on the road, return better fuel economy and be more comfortable than a big, offroad orientated rig, or traditional commercially orientated and ladder framed chassis 4wd.Size - I'm starting to repeat myself here, but if you know what you plan to carry or tow, this will help narrow your choice too. Big fourbys are terrific when you need to carry a lot of gear or people, and for towing, but the downside will be they are more "truck" like to drive, typically use more fuel, harder to park in the city and will scratch up easier on tight 4wd tracks. Inverse for smaller fourbys, but again, don't rule out the ability of some of the smaller fourbys as they will hold their own when compared to the typical big name rigs.Daily driver / weekend warrior - Everything I've said now applies here. Personally, if my fourby was my second car and only driven on weekends I reckon I'd go for the biggest, baddest, most impractical fourby I could find! If it was my daily driver I would be looking at something that was good on fuel, easy to drive and comfy, as well as having the ability to go off the beaten track too.I've tried not to name too many brands, but only used a couple as an example. Once you can determine in your own mind what you need it will likely help narrow your choices. This is only my opinion of course, and others will likley disagree with what I've written, but I hope it is of some help to you.

Timely warning....http://www.ministers.sa.gov.au/news-release-archive/hon-gail-gago-mlc/jetty-fishers-reminded-of-responsibilities.html

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This is a ticking time bomb.Whether what has been portrayed in the media is a a fair account or not, a perception is being formed, and formed quickly.You think there is heat on you guys now for land based shark fishing?..... god forbid should someone be killed or attacked by a shark somewhere along our coast..... think about the hackles that will raise, considering it's already being negatively portrayed in the media and I think you will find this issue will escalate quick smart - for the worse.Don't take this post the wrong way fellas, I'm not against shark fishing and an avid fisherman myself. But I think it would be a good time now to lay low and use your brains, not your mouths.

Here's one of many we caught out of Rocky Island.

My mate who caught it had never really fished before... beginners luck I guess. He still ate it and he reckons it tasted fine.... not that he would know what a good or bad fish taste like!

If you're still not convinced of it's size, here's how it sat in a 60 litre esky

Here's a better comparison of how big it was. Whiting on the left was around 34cm. Look at the difference in thickness!

Here's a KGW caught off my boat at the beginning of the year by a mate. Went an easy 61cm and if I recall correctly was around the 1.5kg mark. We were fishing for snapper and it swallowed a 6/0 loaded with half a squid head. This whiting was a monster!

Thanks Rotare, I suppose you were writing before I made my posts, so I will accept yours as the last post on this issue.

Yes mate, I was (I can't type very fast).ApologiesSean

I hope thats not the John Im thinking of??

It was likely the person you were thinking of...Optimaxworld stated (numerous times I might add), that he wasn't running a charter service, and that he was looking for 4 or 5 blokes to join him fishing on a regular basis. He made it very clear that he wasn't interested in taking a different group every month. He also made it clear that the rough price of $300 was to cover running and ongoing maintenance costs. In return you would likely have the opportunity to go fishing monthly, in an awesome boat, to awesome locations, catching monster fish with opti, who seems like a nice guy.It was clear that this touched a nerve with some people, as they couldn't see how this was any different to a charter operation (?). Of course then the legal arguments started with the usuals, with subtle threats of possible legal action that may unsue. Furthermore, the tone changed to "anyone accepting monies or requesting monies in return for a days fishing is doing so illegally".To be frank, seeking people to come fishing in your boat with the open expectations that costs will be shared is probably a normal experience for most people. I know my mates who want to come with me are happy to pay, as they realize it's expensive to run and mainatin a large boat. If I was expected to wear the entire cost of towing my boat to my preferred fishing location (200km) with my mates in my car, then supplying bait, tackle, food, fuel for the boat, plus all the other ongoing boating expenses... I would still be happy to have my mates come with me, but we would go fishing once every three months, instead of one or more times per month. Why - I simply couldn't afford it!A long ramble, but it simple terms, this is all opti has done, but has been singled out and persecuted for doing so. Some people need to get off their high horses and lighten up IMO.

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You got it right with the brap brap....

Hi Opti,Took your advice and joined this site! Looks good.All the best.Sean