statesquider 0 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Was working at my uncles the other day and stumbled across an old alvey that was gathering dust in a cupboard. He decided he didn't want it anymore so I gave it a new home A bit scuffed but in relatively good nick, justs needs a bit of a polish and new line Its a bit worn but I can just make out its a surf champion 650 A5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rod_evans 2 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 clean it up and it will work as good as new looks like a woodenspool either western redwood or cedar i have a fibreglass spool7inch pushing 40yrs old now and still works fine.cheers rod Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rocknev 2 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 as per pm mate...give it a good clean,and if it needs patching use araldite....well done mate...you will be converted once you here it go off... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spinyeel 2 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Got to love the Alvey reels. :cheer: The best heavy duty surf reels on the planet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
statesquider 0 Posted October 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Its a fibreglass one, but I didn't know that they ever made fibreglass ones in that colour. Line is off of it now and about to give it a good clean as the inside is fairly grubby.Does anyone understand the drag on this model? I've had a look and all I can tell is you tighten up the knob in the middle and it makes the reel harder to turn backwards but also forwards... So as I increase drag I make it harder for me to wind in as well. Is that right? I have no idea when it comes to these reels Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spinyeel 2 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 The knob on those models is not a drag.You use the palm of your hand on the spool.Simple but effective. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
statesquider 0 Posted October 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Hahaha that would make sense If a fish is tearing line off your reel wouldn't it burn your hand? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rocknev 2 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 statesquider wrote:Hahaha that would make sense If a fish is tearing line off your reel wouldn't it burn your hand?yep wait til u hook a ray with it.... :woohoo: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cal 480 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 rocknev wrote: statesquider wrote: Hahaha that would make sense If a fish is tearing line off your reel wouldn't it burn your hand?yep wait til u hook a ray with it.... :woohoo:And make sure to keep your fingers away from the handles,not a nice feeling getting your knuckles in the way when the thing is spinning backward at 2000 resos a minute. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davetheslave 0 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 I have 4 alvey's of varying sizes which i used extensively many years ago when rock and surf fishing. They would have to be the best CASTING reels out, as far as distance goes. Years ago when i lived in adelaide and involved in the angling club scene pretty much all the casting comps were won by blokes using alvey's. Early on i almost gave them away as i was always getting what we used to call 3 stranders where the line seemed to loop off causing tangles. An old bloke in the club i was showed me why. With a spinning reel the line is wound back on the reel in the same way that it comes off, it is the same with an overhead reel, but with an alvey sidecast reel the line loops off, the same as a spinning reel when being cast out, but is wound in the same as a centre pin or overhead reel. He suggested that i always use 2 swivels instead of one on the main line to counteract this. For the life of me i can't see why 2 swivels would work better than 1 but it certainly greatly reduced the amount of tangles i was getting when casting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
statesquider 0 Posted October 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 I stripped the reel and gave it a thorough cleaning, came up a treat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
reelin 2 Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 That looks pretty schmick now! good work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
statesquider 0 Posted October 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Spooling it myself sometime this week then I just need to get a rod to chuck it on!Do you have to wear gloves when you fish with it? Holding the spool whilst hooked onto something big will burn quite badly wont it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spinyeel 2 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I've caught all sorts on plain dragless Alveys,including big Mullies,Snapper,Sharks,Rays and even Spanish Mackeral in W.A. Don't worry about burning your hand.Worry about the spinning handles You will get a feel for the reel after a bit of use,and everything will become second nature.Cheers Phil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
statesquider 0 Posted October 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I'll just have to give it a go then! Hopefully getting a rod in the next week or two. Can't wait! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davetheslave 0 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 To get the best out of your alvey you should make sure that you get a rod designed for it, just any old rod will not be suitable. Ideally the rod should have the winch fitting close to the butt and the first runner should be large and around one third of the way up the rod. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
statesquider 0 Posted October 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I've already got a tonne of surf rods, I'm on the market for an alvey specific rod Someone on here has pointed me in the right direction already so I'll get on that as soon as I have the cash Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rod_evans 2 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 statesquidder thats not fibreglass but a substanceused before called bakerlite very strong but can chip easy to patch with epoxy resin though that model is great if you have to winch fish up any heightsbecause of the direct wind and there is no drag to slip.cheers rod Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Del 245 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 fantastic work mate!! when i busted my spinning reel on my surf rod on the weekend i almost brke out my old alvey for a salmon session.. but another large spin reel came on offer from my step father.. dont think he was keen on me re-steeling/borrowing the alvey he gave me when i was 14.. as i think he knows he would never get it back once i re claimined it ;)you have done well now enjoy it to its fullest! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
statesquider 0 Posted October 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 It looks nothing like fibreglass but it has a sticker on it that says fibreglass so I just assumed Very much looks like bakerlite though. Really can't wait to get it going though, will hopefully spool it up tonight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rocknev 2 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 i reckon its bakerlite as well...the colour and pattern on it are near identical to mine, and mine is a vintage bakerlite as well...ive thought about upgrading.. but why?if it aint broke dont fix it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rollcast 1 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Brings back memories of eagle ray fishing off west beach as a kid in the seventies.I had a fiberglass 650 C5.650 was 6.5 inch C was star drag A5 was fixed handle(651 deep spool large capacity)Various friends had bakelite reels like this and even a couple of old wooden spool jobs.I always got a laugh listening to me old mate scream when an eagle'y took off on his old knuckle buster C5.The rods we all used were built on butterworth blanks MT8144.Stood for multi taper 8 wrap 144 inches (12 ft).I believe synderglass use the same mandrills.A short 9 inch butt and large stripping guide were a must.Most of us had a little hook type guide near the front grip known as an open runner.Swivels are stronger than people think and we found using smaller swivells stopped most of the line twist that caused the dreaded three strand.Level winding with the forefinger was essential.Casting was done buy trapping the line against the spool with the back (BUTT) hand and placing the front hand well up the rod towards the stripping guide. In South Africa they cast overhead surf rods with short butts in this manner!!?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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