Entomologists, c'mon!!

[tonyb 1,017]

Been puzzled by this upwinged ephemeropteran which is very prolific on a crystal clear Club dam in spring Anybody able to help out please, or, if not able to supply the "techy" term, at least a fly pattern (dry) to imitate it :woohoo: Cheers, tonyb

[grubb 0]

It looks like some thing from the mayfly family. Perhaps a 'green drake' in those colours could work. Maybe you could put this post on a flyfishing website, you would probably get an exact pattern then.Cheers, Dave.

[rocknev 2]

you know... del actually killed one of them on his tent in whyalla last night...he said it was a winged earwigger.i called it a plain old bug.

[tonyb 1,017]

grubb wrote:

It looks like some thing from the mayfly family. Perhaps a 'green drake' in those colours could work. Maybe you could put this post on a flyfishing website, you would probably get an exact pattern then.Cheers, Dave.

Never thought about a dedicated site Dave, good idea, though I'm still hopeful we have a few knowledgeable Fly Guys on our site

[tonyb 1,017]

rocknev wrote:

you know... del actually killed one of them on his tent in whyalla last night...he said it was a winged earwigger.i called it a plain old bug.

That's not a silly comment either as the body section is a "dead ringer" for an earwigs body although it's definiteley a member of the "ephemerids" (live for one day only!)

[rocknev 2]

you know from the side view, its sort of like a locust as well.

[Mickyj 3,205]

rocknev wrote:

you know from the side view, its sort of like a locust as well.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought it looked like a locust.And we all know locust when single are grasshoppers Tony I enjoy reading your posts .seems I need to tag along one day with you

[rocknev 2]

Mickyj wrote:

rocknev wrote:

you know from the side view, its sort of like a locust as well.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought it looked like a locust.And we all know locust when single are grasshoppers Tony I enjoy reading your posts .seems I need to tag along one day with you

from the side it defintaly looks like a locust... i even said that to del when it started to crawl all over the side of del's tent...but when it flew down to the ground, we could see the forked tail, and del said it was an earwig.must be a hybrid of the 2 perhaps....

[Dude 0]

By the look in the photo the wings havnt fully opened yet.They look similar to a mud-eye (dragon fly lava)I think they live in the water like mud-eyes do until there ready to develop into a flyer.

[fishnuts 55]

BROWN DUNSiphlonuridea Ameletus

[Del 245]

rocknev wrote:

Mickyj wrote:

rocknev wrote:

you know from the side view, its sort of like a locust as well.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought it looked like a locust.And we all know locust when single are grasshoppers Tony I enjoy reading your posts .seems I need to tag along one day with you

from the side it defintaly looks like a locust... i even said that to del when it started to crawl all over the side of del's tent...but when it flew down to the ground, we could see the forked tail, and del said it was an earwig.must be a hybrid of the 2 perhaps....

that bug was the last of my worries compared to that HUGE wolf spider..good luck tying the fly tony.. its things like that.. observing the food sources and imitating them that make u such a formidable fisher!

[tonyb 1,017]

fishnuts wrote:

BROWN DUNSiphlonuridea Ameletus

You have just acheived legendary status Fishnuts, just knew there would be the answer on this forum, and so modest and forthright, well deserved Karma your way mate PS (wish I could give you two, many thanks )

[tonyb 1,017]

that bug was the last of my worries compared to that HUGE wolf spider..good luck tying the fly tony.. its things like that.. observing the food sources and imitating them that make u such a formidable fisher!AAAWWW gee thanks mate!

[grubb 0]

Tonyb, here is a pic of the green drake mayfly. It's very similar to the pic you have posted and both are of the mayfly family. A green drake or blue dun pattern (winged variety) in the colour you need should do the trick.cheers, Dave.

[tombo 30]

use any highland dun pattern. But I think your Dun is a little smaller??Mustad R30 14tail= furnace fibersbody= antron (colour to match)rib= gold thread or madeira 525wing= hen pheasant tail hackle= furnace or cocky bondu

[fishnuts 55]

Tony have a look here and you will find more than you'll ever need to know.Cheers Darrenhttp://truformfly.com/patterns/

[tonyb 1,017]

fishnuts wrote:

Tony have a look here and you will find more than you'll ever need to know.Cheers Darrenhttp://truformfly.com/patterns/

RIGHT, that's it!!! you're up for another Karma mate

[rollcast 1]

I think this is an atolaphlebia australisica dun (sub imago stage of the mayfly cycle).Very common on the Finnis CatchmentTry a hghland Dun (Tassie pattern) or a Pecks Dun in size 12 or 14 .A shaving brush or Barry Lodges emerger(Tassie Pattern) is also worth a try.These are all well known patterns and tying instructions should be easy to find.Once they change to spinners (imago stage) try a Noel Jetsons (very famous Tassie Tyer) red spinner.Very hard to fool the Trout once they start jumping for red spinner,Ask anyone who has fished Lake Konongwootong during a spinner session!!If you know anyone with a copy of Ray Browns Trout stream insects of the Fleuriea Peninsula it will be in there.A friend of mine has a copy ,I will see if I can identify it. Green Drake is a massive Nth American mayfly much larger than these and greenish in colour.These are a copper red colour.Stripped peacock quill makes the perfect body material but many people use red flos ribbed with gold or copper wire.Cheers

[rollcast 1]

Just found it.Page 106 of Peter Leuver,s fur and feather has a whole page dedicated to the Atalophlebia dun as tied by Ray brown for fishing South Australian waters.Ray now resides in Tassie and still ties flies commercially.This is an excellent book.(i collect fly tying books)Atalophlebia dunHook:9480 downeye,size 12Silk:6/0 prewaxed RumpfRib: Stripped peacock herlTail: dun cockBody: Palmered Blue Dun ,ribbed with stripped peacock herlWing: Peacock wing quill (brown),rolledHackle:Blue Dun followed by brownTony if you cant find Rumpf silk just use 6/0 uni thread in brown or black.hook can be substituted for a Kamisan b405.Also wing can be substituted for Turkey tail slip.The same book features Rumpfs red spinner (page 70) which can be useful if the fish are mopping up spent spinners after the hatch.I would still favor the highland dun or lodges emerger as my first go to flies during the hatch.Australias best trout flies by Malcolm Crosse is another useful book.Barry Lodges emerger(tied by Jim Allen) appears on page 19.The Highland dun (by Noel Jetson) is featured on page75.There is as ectin dedicated to Ray Browns flies (many specific to SA)on page 34.Highland DunHook:kamasanb401Thread: pearsills silk brown.tail: bunch of brown hackle fibresBody:brown tying silk palmered with brown hackleRib:fine copper wireWing:Brown speckled hen wing slips tied con cave sides inward,forming a single, backward slpoing winghackle: brown cock with two turns of badger hackle in front

[Guest shagging]

looks like an earwick of some sort! same ones as you find around a regular house hold! only with wings,very cool

[coight 0]

found something for you fly boys.. dunno if its any helphttp://www.fresnoflyfishers.org/fly_tying/flyofthemonth/feb_08.pdf

[chrisjc 0]

tony if you want details on how to get them i know where you can pick some up, if you dont want to tye them just send me a pm.

[tonyb 1,017]

Wow, this site continues to blow me away :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: So much good oil, how can you not fail to be impressed B)Thanks to all the experts for sharing, now I just gotta get my head around this stuff and get challenged with the fly tying side of it, I'm sure I'll get plenty of help if I get stuck :PThanks guys! Roll cast: A special thanks to you, so much knowledge in one head, you sure know your stuff On the subject of Fly tying books, I think I've mentioned on S&H before about a book which really pushed my Fly tying buttons when I lived in Scotland for a few years. "Clyde Style Flies" by John Reid is a "pandoras box/Aladdins cave, of tiny, technically tied exact imitations of Flies for the clear, seriously heavily fished stretches of the Clyde River which flows past the industrial city of Glasgow.Make an effort to get a copy, you will love it as much as I did ( be prepared to tie to size 20 hook sizes with feathers from the throat of a starling, wing slips from blackbirds etc.)

[rollcast 1]

Thanks Tony,I will keep an eye out for that book.I am off to Gore on the South Island of NZ for my annual pilgrimage in three weeks,so have been busy tying.I enjoy tying starling split wing style flies such as black gnats and the smaller sizes in 18 20 etc are a must for the match the hatch style fishing on the Matuara which runs through Gore.cheers Rollcast

[tonyb 1,017]

http://www.fishandfly.co.uk/bookrevs/clyde.htmlHere you go rollcast, one good turn deserves another Good luck in the land of Kiwi, one of my dream destinations when I moved to Aussie 20 years ago Still haven't been yet.retiring next year so it could still happen :unsure:Hope we all get to hear how you went when you return

[rollcast 1]

Tony,Borrowed a copy of clyde style flies from a close friend today.Interesting to see that they tie a wet version of the ever reliable red tag,normally fished dry over here especially in Tassie to gum beetle feeders.I might have to tie a few of the smallwer mayfly patterns featured.Cheers Rollcast

[tonyb 1,017]

I had a strong fancy you'd enjoy that title Rollcast One of my favourites was the mating Black Gnats, two tiny black cock hackles one at the eye and one at the bend with some black tying silk for the body, tied on a size 20, fished Dry of course I used to blow my mates away on the English Reservoirs where big "streamer" style patterns fished fast where all the go The ridicule soon turned to requests to "Make me a few up mate!", very satisfying, maybe more so than the Rainbows I caught up to 7lb 6ozs ;)Another second choice fly was the wet "Black and Peacock Spider" Black hen hackle,peacock herl body, a piece of the hackle for the tail and I used to tie in a silver tinsel tag which I thought may represent a bubble of air such as some water beetles carry!

[rollcast 1]

Believe it or not that black and peocock spider is a very handy fly over here and in NZ.It works particularly well on tailing fish in little pine in Tassie and on snail feeders any where you might find them.Cheers Tony rollcast

[rollcast 1]

Also black and peacock spider(or any soft hackle wet for that matter) is a handy fly to fish tied off the gape of the hook 2 feet under an elk hair caddis when fishing down and across to caddis feeders on a river during the evening rise just about anywhere.