tonyb

Bottom line is that it is almost 100% the NITROGEN loads which are killing the grasses and these come directly from Waste Water plants and Penrice. The push is to reduce' date=' at all costs' date=' these levels even if it is tiny steps at a time [/quote'']I'm not sure how the treatment plants could possibly reduce the amount of nitrogen they pump out, they already have a denitrification process involving bacteria and bolivar uses the ponds as well (no ponds at christies). Was the treatment plant at Glenelg mentioned at all?Unfortunately the only way i can see to get nitrogen levels down from treatment plants is to fund RESEARCH into more efficient denitrification processes (OH NO SPEND MONEY??). There was some research done on using duckweed on the ponds to eat up some nitrogen, the problem was it blew around with the wind to one side, combat that by sectioning off the ponds using barriers, then the ducks ate all the weed coz it was easier to get to lol...believe it or not, treatment plants are actually fairly interesting places, there is a lot involved and a lot of money spent in treating our poo and there are a lot more treatment plants than people would think (some of which pump their 'outfall' into creeks and rivers that ends up guess where? )anyway, i digress, i want our sea grasses back! more squid and gar thanks.

AND it was mentioned by Peter what a draw-card it would be for rec anglers to catch KGW's from the Beach as well :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: Glenelg was mentioned too tho' only fleetingly.On the settlement ponds, these are no longer neccesary for the Christies Plant as they use massive centrifuges which separate the sludge which can then be carted away and dumped elsewhere.Interestingly, the old sewage settlement ponds along River road near Port Noarlunga will be converted into a 2 million dollar Bird Sanctuary when the new Railway Bridge is completed, directly over the old ponds, in early 2013 ALL that crap which used to leach into the Onkaparinga River will finally be gone and all the storm-water that is caught up in the Sanctuary, will be filtered through a complex series of circular ponds before entering the Onka system a helluva a lot cleaner than it went in

Not sure how long the two Christies poo pipe discharges go out to sea, nothing like a kilometre that's for sure, but I do know the discharge end of the pipes are perforated along the last bit so as the poo gets spread out on the sea bed a bit more evenly

Hi All,Just came off one of my Bird Watching sites where the shore birds in the Goolwa area are regularly reported, along with other species.One of the guys on there saw so many Fur Seals in the Mouth and up the Channel that he thought it was worth reporting them on a Bird Watching Site :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:

Good point Kingsley and I always thought the de-Sal. plant was a total knee jerk reaction from the drought, when everyone was screaming doom and gloom with planet warming, rising salt levels, higher water usage, carbon footprints, etc. etc.!Bottom line is that it is almost 100% the NITROGEN loads which are killing the grasses and these come directly from Waste Water plants and Penrice. The push is to reduce, at all costs, these levels even if it is tiny steps at a time

Hi All,At the Metropolitan Fishers Alliance (MFA)Meeting last night, we were inspired by an educational talk, given by one of the top blokes in the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), about the extensive work the EPA has been doing over many years to try to reduce storm-water and sewage effluent loads along the Metro Coastline.Peter gave us some frighteningly high statistics of the thousands of tonnes of sediment and chemicals dumped into Adelaide's shoreline on a yearly basis! The waste water treatment plants at Bolivar and Christies Beach being the two worst offenders! However, Penrice Soda Products is an absolute shocker, but with the good news that they are spending lots of money, with the urging of the EPA, to try and reduce their loads and the EPA has been able to record some very positive results tho' it is at the time of writing, still some thing like 800 tonnes per year going into the Port River!!The de-Salination Plant at Port Stanvac also came in for a fair bit of discussion and I asked about one of my personal long standing issues with the set-up at Stanvac and that was the question with the two 750mm grey water effluent outfall pipes at the Christies Waste Water Plant which discharge about a kilometre south of the in-let pipes for the de-salination Plant which of course only removes salt then pumps the water up to our holding Reservoirs for drinking, not too mention that the highly saline discharge back into the Coast-line can't be good for all sorts of Marine life including the struggling sea-grasses! Interestingly, one of our MFA Leaders, who was at the Meeting, was involved in the Environmental Impact Study on the chances of the poo being sucked up for our drinking water and they found it to be highly unlikely?? Hmmm, I must confess to still being very sceptical about the findings I also raised the issue of the sand dredging off Stanvac to replenish the Beaches and Peter had to admit that it was an environmental disaster, with the tides pushing silt both north and south (hellooo, inlet/outlet pipes?)and the really sad news that Port Noarlunga reef is still struggling to recover, even this far down the track :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:Peter told us that the EPA has masses of Science behind it and they have even built "models" of the various problem areas and how they are progressing/regressing. This Science has been gathered together and formulated into the Adelaide Coastal Water Quality Improvement Plan (ACWQIP)and it can be viewed at their Web-site. We were luckily able to grab CD's and leaflets at our MFA Meeting which Peter kindly brought along for us. http://www.epa.sa.gov.au/environmental_info/water_quality/adelaides_coastal_watersPeter's closing comments rang very true to us all and he stressed that the only way forward is for the Community to get involved. The Community was surveyed in a major costly excercise some years ago and the result of it was that they all wanted their "Blue Line" back again

We had an interesting and educational talk given by the EPA at the monthly MFA Meeting last night and one of the big picture issues that has driven Adelaides "Blue Line" of sea grasses further and further off shore is the nitrogen loads from poo treatment plants along the Metro Coast-line :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:

Yep, "Cookie" at the Kiosk, told me that it's a great source of carp to bait up for Blue Swimmers :ohmy:

Those introduced redfin fillets are even more kick-arse on the dinner table after reading all that stuff Thanks for the heads-up mate, you've even put me off those crab sticks now which I didn't think were so bad to eat (chemically enhanced speaking.)

'Tis amazing to me that it's banned in the USA and me and the Bride had been eating it for ages and it was only my curiosity to see exactly what species of fish it was that led me to find out :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: It does seem amazing also that the Supermarkets and fish shops are allowed to sell contaminated stuff like this, surely there are Australian Standards to be complied with before importation or is it just that globalisation rules over common sense and the long term health of Australians?Interesting also that now the Supermarkets have to comply with naming standards how much sea food is actually produced in Asia for Aussie consumption?Please don't think this is a racist post, that is definitely not my intention, merely pointing out that some of the most polluted countries in the World are mass producing food for world wide consumption.

Welcome yer pommy barsteward from another pommy convert (21 years now) Jags is quite right about a temporary membership to SAFWAA's two dozen Dams?Visitors from abroad can take up a monthly permit for about 10 bucks I think?Drop me a PM, I'm one of SAFWAA's Fishery Officers and I'll try and help you catch some fish.Cheers, tonyb.

Redfin: 65 to 700 grams a fortnight ago

DOGS KILLED BY DISCARDED PUFFER FISHDog walkers on Seacliff beach are being warned to keep their dogs away from dead fish and anglersare being asked to bin unwanted puffer fish instead of throwing them back into the sea.At least three dogs have died and two others have had to be rushed to the vets for treatment in thelast six months.Local dog walker Tony Souter told the Guardian Messenger: “We need to get the message across forpeople to be responsible for their actions and that they‟re harming our dogs. “I look for (puffer fish)every morning... and there‟s a group of us that pick them up and put them in our poo bags.”Sue Blethyn, of Marino, said her WeimaranerHarry died just over an hour after he ate part ofa puffer fish last October.“We were just doing anormal walk on the beach in the morning ...when Harry saw a very dead puffer fish lying onthe beach and ran off with it,” she said. “Itwasn‟t until we got home that he was violentlyill. “For a great, big, strong dog like that to bedead over an hour later was a real shock, it wasterrible.”Almost all puffer fish contain tetrodotoxin, adeadly substance that is 1200 times morepoisonous than cyanide.A spokesman for the SA Recreational FishingAdvisory Council said that puffers were a“nuisance” to fishermen in the area, and it wasvery difficult to get these fish off the hook,leading to anglers sometimes just cutting theline and dropping them back into the water. Headded that they were probably unaware of theharm the discarded fish were doing to dogs.

Thank you fellas . Was a thought that went through my head Jagger and Tonyb . Some one just being silly an letting there little bream go in the fresh water . I got the Carp on bread TBR and in the video you will see my rig on the other rod . Will call ya soon Jack . Cheers again fellas .

Agreed with Jags on that bream in there Very professional vid JJ, great report as well, very entertaining

Big W sell a six pack of rod tips of varying sizes for under ten bucks

Hi All,Just had a heads up from a keen fly fishing/tying mate of mine about this fly.It's obviously American in origin, however my mate picked up that it is very popularin Tasmania and in particular for catching redfin.My thoughts are that it is deer hair construction like the "Muddler minnow" patternsand meant to be ripped quickly through the water as a streamer style Fly.This would mean it would be most effective during the Summer months when the redfin are actively chasing fish fry as redfin are normally bottom dwellers in the cooler months when they shoal up for breeding (in my experience).Give it a go, at the very least it will test your Fly tying skills and who knows, it may be all it's claimed to be?http://www.flyanglersonline.com/features/oldflies/part289.php

To be honest it was always a bit of a worry down there with a lot of illegal dumping, setting fire to stolen cars and break ins!Hopefully the new Development will bring an element of security to the area with people taking more "Ownership" of this section of the Onkaparinga Recreational Park?

Hi All,Just had a heads-up that the Council will be Gating this Road off in two places, prior to building an Old Folks Home on the site of the Railway builders Offices!I have the Plans in a PDF File if any one is interested?Cheers, tonyb.

They look very fishy catchy efforts mate but a small point, and in no way a criticism, the beads generally sit right against the eye of the hook with this particular pattern, but there again, what would a poor dumb trout know about what works or doesn't? I've found that the flies that are in the water the most are always the ones that catch the fish anyway

Call me an old cynic but "google" this fact: Science has never, ever, been able to cure a single viral infection :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: Now then, what is HERPES????Well, dang my silly hide, it's a VIRUS!!AND the "Scientists" have tested it and will release it on an un-suspecting Mother Nature!!LORD GIVE ME STRENGTH :sick: :silly: :side: :S

Great news it's finally ready for more testing bring on the herpes! Testing methods are pretty stringent these days Tony.

There WILL be tears if this control ever takes off in my opinion. Why do humans, who have already totally stuffed the natural Australian Environment up,in less than a few hundred years, think they have a natural right to invent and introduce,yet more horrendous controls than we already have?Our record is totally pathetic in achieving any eradication of any introduced animal, bird, fish or plant in Australia and yet we still continue to do it!.ENOUGH already! Imagine the consequences to Australian native fish species if this bl**dy nasty virus they are playing with goes viral and we don't have a fishery at all?What will the Boffins/Scientists say then? I can't imagine

Just a thought and totally my own, will this Group be the new "Driver" for Government Lobbying, on behalf of all recreational fishers every where in Australia?