Thanks for the reply Kelvin sounds like it has been really hard to find good numbers of yellowfin this summer Hope next session things will improve. I haven't put a lot of time in this year targeting yellowfin due to the lack of sand worms at the location that myself and my Dad had always found a reliable source in past years:(. I have been giving surface lures ago of late but haven't had any luck with yellowfin only lots of ST's.vxman