johndeere 0 Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 I seem to be dropping quite a few salmon as they near the waters edge. I am using a laser lure with a small treble. What would be the best hook selection to reduce these loses? A bigger treble,a circle hook,a single hook or something else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jagger 24 Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 Single hook by far in my opinion. Changed to them a couple of season back and can only recall dropping 2 fish now in the surf obviously due to bad hook setting. I prefer the owner style assist hooks with the kevlar loop as it's extremely difficult for them to shake it loose. Not the cheapest but catch rate makes up for that! alexczarn and afishyfish 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
afishyfish 4 Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 Trying to pull a fish in against the outgoing wave is often the problem, and this may be the case here ? Try using a bit less pressure on the fish as its gets in close, and let the waves wash the fish to you, but be prepared to give some line as the waves go out too.It may take 2-3 times doing this before you get the fish high n dry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cal 480 Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 G"day mate,some good tips there from the guys Going against pretty much everything you get taught about keeping the rod tip up,an old guy once showed when using lures for them, to lower the rod tip right down with Salmon once you get them half way in.It stops them jumping and throwing the hook,I was sceptical at first but gave it a crack and it works a treat.Cheers afishyfish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
afishyfish 4 Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 G"day mate' date='some good tips there from the guys Going against pretty much everything you get taught about keeping the rod tip up,an old guy once showed when using lures for them, to lower the rod tip right down with Salmon once you get them half way in.It stops them jumping and throwing the hook,I was sceptical at first but gave it a crack and it works a treat.Cheers [/quote']I tend to do that on the whole retreive when luring Cal, thinking it helps keep the lure and line in the water more, rather than having the wave crests lift it as much Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tako 0 Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 I always fish sideways with the rod vitally horizontal to the beach. Singles help a lot too, I use the decoy sergeant hooks off the top of my head. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thefunkychicken 0 Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 G'day.Great topic!I wouldn't be using circle hooks on lures. I'm fairly sure that hookups would be harder to achieve using circles as opposed to a standard style single.I've got some lures with trebles, some with stinger/assist hooks, and some with single octopus hooks and I honestly find downfalls with each method.Trebles seem to get more hookups but more fish are lost, The stinger/assist hook sometimes fouls on the leader or rear hook,And I find sometimes that a lone rear hook gets less hookups but, as others have said, the fish is less likely to get off.Cheers. 4THALOVE 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
4THALOVE 45 Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 yeah circles wouldn't be in my preferred choice either as they are meant to be left to sit and the fish hooks it self Moggy23 and myself have been getting some great advice from mrballs at sports fishing scene on using singles maybe pm him for ideas mate good luck in tha future cheers 4THA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GDK 0 Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Gday.These days as soon as I buy a new salmon lure I chuck a single suicide hook with a bit of red tube on the shank... (brown hooks seem to work better than the red).....Gave up on trebles years ago, rarely lose one now.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dutchy 451 Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 All very good well researcher and proven advise I have even used a single hook on a 70mm snook minnow on tuna with bream gear :woohoo: caught 4 before mate had a go lasted a few seconds :silly: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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