robfish 0 Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 im looking for color pattens and types just for genral fly fishing in the onk no target speices Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Highfly 0 Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 You've got have a target speciesWe talking trout, reddies, bream, mullies ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robfish 0 Posted November 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 ok lets say i was affter bream, mullies and mabey salmon trout Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vb4me 1 Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Not really into fly fishin myself but I would work out what fish are in the area you intend fishing and find out/work out what types/colours of fly work on those species and choose something that as similar as possible between them. Or as with lure fishin take as many colours/patterns as you can and just see how each of them go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Highfly 0 Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 As a starting point .....Crazy charlies will catch bream mullies and salmon. Chartruese will work on all,Pink baited breaths are a great first fly for bream. Sizes 4 to 6 are fairly popular.White / Blue profile clousers are a great starting point on the mullies. Sizes 2 - 2/0 fairly popular. Becareful casting these if you are a begginer, make sure you wear a hat. Its not uncommon to wear the odd fly in the back of the head. especially if its windy. Salmon will take anything once you locate them. We've caught salmon with white cotton wool crudely attached to a hook.Welcome to the site by the wayGL looking forward to hearing your results the onks a great fishery Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robfish 0 Posted November 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Waterboy wrote:You the bloke I put onto the site in the shop today? If so or even if not - welcome to the site Markhaha yes it is mate cheers for the head up about this site loving it and thanks for your help Highfly and vb4me great help im going out to the mouth in the morning ill let you's know how it goes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tonka 1 Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Yep, Highfly is a wealth of knowledge, always willing to share and some top suggestions there too.The Onk is a great fishery for fly fishing as well.Baited Breathes, clousers, baitfish patterns in white/pearl, chartruese, pinks, seafoam green, pale blue/white are all a good starter.Once you find the salmon trout, they will hit just about anything you offer.. Had a session on some new clouser type flies..Bream, + schoolies will hit any of the mentioned flies so far.I use mainly #4's and #6 hooks, and my personal choice is to close the barb, just in the off chance 'I wear one' as a new earing. (so far, so good) Makes for easy release of fish as well.My favourite so far is anything with a mini rattle.. I reckon it gets more attentiona minnow with a rattle.. And closer to the mouth I've had yellowfin take small yellow/white flies.. Welcome to the site and good luck on the fly..Keep us posted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robfish 0 Posted November 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 thanks for the info tonka im just about to grab some flys online my old man has a few clousers hanging around so ill try them out tomoro Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robfish 0 Posted November 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 bloody hell how is it that i can never get good fishing weather HAHA not doing anything this week so i might try my hand on a nice day Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mickyj 3,205 Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Welcome to the site .I was going to say Tonka or Highfly would be your men . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robfish 0 Posted November 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 cheers for the welcome, yea mate they have given me some top advice but haven't had a chance to try it out yet damn weather haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mickyj 3,205 Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 robfish wrote:cheers for the welcome, yea mate they have given me some top advice but haven't had a chance to try it out yet damn weather hahaI'm on one good knee fingers crossed forWednesday 32 c fingers crossed to attackthe Lake . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robfish 0 Posted November 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 haha i bloody hope it's a nice day here i come onka XD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tonyb 1,017 Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Mickyj wrote: robfish wrote: cheers for the welcome, yea mate they have given me some top advice but haven't had a chance to try it out yet damn weather hahaI'm on one good knee fingers crossed forWednesday 32 c fingers crossed to attackthe Lake .Didn't know you were a shy boy Mick, you'd have a wealth of experience on salt water flies with your West Lakes know how Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rollcast 1 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 There is a bloke from Camperdown in Vic who is a professional fly tyer and bream legend around his local estuaries.Most of his patterns work well on bream.He is also a very accomplished trout fisherman.I have been to a couple of his fly tying seminars.I now tie my own version of his hammerhead pattern tied in a brown orange blend when chasing Onk bream and have had excellent results over the last few years..This is basically a version of his famous BMS (bullen Merri Special) tied with dumbell eyes.Make sure you use Mustad Aberdeen Hooks for better hook up rates if tying your own.Other wise ring Muz and order direct from him.Many of Muz flies feature in the book "Australian fly patterns" by Peter Coulson.Cheers Rollcast Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mickyj 3,205 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 tonyb wrote: Mickyj wrote: robfish wrote: cheers for the welcome, yea mate they have given me some top advice but haven't had a chance to try it out yet damn weather hahaI'm on one good knee fingers crossed forWednesday 32 c fingers crossed to attackthe Lake .Didn't know you were a shy boy Mick, you'd have a wealth of experience on salt water flies with your West Lakes know how I'm blushing TonyWell I'm a bit of a maverick with my flies.I tend to use stuff I have made up myslef or modified other peoples flies to my own needs.what could I tell Robfish .Yellow is a colour the last 2 seasons that Bream have been jumping out the water to eat.Lost and scared some bigger boys .Green well that worked well for a couple of yearsPink is so so but I lost a schoolie on pink.So when I actually get back in the water .I shall be once again using a foam popper so addicted to the surface action .As I said I lost a schoolie on a totally pink popper fly based on "Morsies whiting popper" .Made much smaller on a number 14 trout hook .Yep I didnt set the hook Please I understand the hook size is not correct or is it after getting hit by schoolie who knows. Now I have been hearing about orange as a "BREAM" colour .I have tried orange on a tiny popper(body white tail orange) .I made the body to small.My latest fly with orange is much bigger in the body (kept the body white) and used orange for the tail.Looks like a large white blow fly no joke :cheer: Something I have learn't small poppers are great tiny dont work.So since last autumn I have learnt that Snook, school mulloway, Bream garfish forgot ST's all will sstrike a popper/booby fly .Of course I have yet to land anything other than Bream on a popper St's I've landed on gurglers.Me I also like bright fluro colours others like more natural colours .To me the fish will take either bright colours are easier for my glasses to pick up As I started with I'm a bit of a maverick so some of my ideas are a bit off centre.And a fish is a fish unless I hook and land one of those 50cm buggers that sit in ankle deep water!!I can only add if u see bait fish schools cast around them and keep the fly moving u never know when something other than a Bream will strike what ever u are chucking around.CheersMick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robfish 0 Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 went down to the mouth yesterday affternoon had a little fun on a couple of small bream one was 14cm and the other 17cm first fish on the flys so fun! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robfish 0 Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 rollcast wrote:There is a bloke from Camperdown in Vic who is a professional fly tyer and bream legend around his local estuaries.Most of his patterns work well on bream.He is also a very accomplished trout fisherman.I have been to a couple of his fly tying seminars.I now tie my own version of his hammerhead pattern tied in a brown orange blend when chasing Onk bream and have had excellent results over the last few years..This is basically a version of his famous BMS (bullen Merri Special) tied with dumbell eyes.Make sure you use Mustad Aberdeen Hooks for better hook up rates if tying your own.Other wise ring Muz and order direct from him.Many of Muz flies feature in the book "Australian fly patterns" by Peter Coulson.Cheers Rollcastwhere would i beable to get a copy of this book?, i have a fly tying kit coming in and wanna try my hand at making my own. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mickyj 3,205 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 robfish wrote:went down to the mouth yesterday affternoon had a little fun on a couple of small bream one was 14cm and the other 17cm first fish on the flys so fun! Well done RobfishWhat fly did they take ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robfish 0 Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 one of my old man's white crazy charlie lol still waiting on my'n to come in the mail haha should be here tomoro Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mickyj 3,205 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 robfish wrote:one of my old man's white crazy charlie lol still waiting on my'n to come in the mail haha should be here tomoro Well done you have answered your own question Now did u take the fish from the bank or wading ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robfish 0 Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 off the bank Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mickyj 3,205 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 robfish wrote:off the bankAhh I seeI haven't been to the onk since I was about 20seeing I'm almost 47 its been awhile.When I started at West lakes I was casting fromthe bank.These days I wade cooler weather in waderswarmer weather shorts and old shoes .What I found and u may be better than me.But bywading I have hopefully done away with anyback casting problems .All the best mate any pictures of your capturesand dont forget to try different colours etc in your flies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robfish 0 Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 na i dident get any pics i dont like to carry my phone with me when around the water (3 years ago i droped my phone in the drink off noarlunga jetty haha) ill take it next time tho im going out tomorrow affternoon i want some pics lol and also i got a question me and me old man are woundering if anything around here would go for those Deceiver flys? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mickyj 3,205 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I carry my stuff in lunch boxes lolYep most things should go for the deceiver Bream mullies slamon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robfish 0 Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 ok sweet cheers for the help mate ill post some pics of my next catch tomoro hopefully Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tonka 1 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 robfish wrote:anything around here would go for those Deceiver flys?Yup, they do :PI had a sinking tip line when I used them and I found the Deceivers took a bit to get to sink.Even put a couple wraps of light solder near the head and that helped.Had some good hits on green/white and blue/white deceivers in the onk, and some big swirls around the flies on the surface, and wakes behind the fly when retrieving.Gets the heart pumping Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tonka 1 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I should have added too..You can use some Clear 5min Araldite/epoxy and put a small head on them too.Just keep turning it till it goes off to keep it even, doesn't take much.Helps to get them under. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robfish 0 Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Tonka wrote:I should have added too..You can use some Clear 5min Araldite/epoxy and put a small head on them too.Just keep turning it till it goes off to keep it even, doesn't take much.Helps to get them under. cheers mate ill look into it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fishnuts 55 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Or you could use one of these.Cheers Darren Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brenton 637 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Some neat flies there Tonka but i didn't see any of the shrimp pattern??Robfish welcome I think Pro Joe who is a member here makes and sells a few flies,I seem to remember him telling me that one of his all time best sellers for the onk was something called a bumble bee. cheers brenton Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mickyj 3,205 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 There u go lots of replies And this little yellow popper is loved by Bream at the lake .Dont forget to hunt them on the surface as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robfish 0 Posted December 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 cheers for the welcome brenton, and Mickyj is there a closer pic of the yellow popper i cant relli see it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mickyj 3,205 Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 robfish wrote:cheers for the welcome brenton, and Mickyj is there a closer pic of the yellow popper i cant relli see itNah sorry my Camera's not that goodBasically its Foam I bought in a roll from theTimber section of Mitre 10 40 cents a metreThis one has a fake fur tail(I was using fake orange hair today)The foam is painted in bright yellow nail polishTied on a number 16 trout hook.It looks bigger in the picture. Here's the last fish I landed before my op.Any of the small bream I've landed on thesetrout hooks have been hooked in the side of themouth pretty cool Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robfish 0 Posted December 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 nice bream and sounds easy to make ^^ ill try it out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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